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how come windows has so many "updates" but it doesn't get any better?
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You are a pessimist.
I'm an optimist and so I'm very happy when it does not become much worse after the update 
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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I've made the observation just a few days ago somewhere here in the lounge that the problem isn't in stopping updates...it's stopping the unwanted reboots. Subtle, but oh-so-important difference.
I use WSUS to control what updates get offered to my systems, and I have my systems set up to prompt me when they find something new (nothing gets installed automatically). But once an update is installed and is waiting to reboot - you're still at MS's mercy. It doesn't sound like this particular utility is making the claim it can do anything to prevent the reboot.
My current plan is to use some version of Windows Server as my next development VM. I've never had a server OS reboot unexpectedly, from NT 4 onward (as opposed to client OSes). Server versions will wait patiently for weeks and months.
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Server OSs are certainly much better at allowing you to control when they restart - however, I have noticed - at three sites now - that when there are significant updates waiting to be installed (ie a reboot is pending) performance sometimes degrades (especially SQL Server and DNS on the DCs) until you are essentially forced to reboot.
It is however still under your control WHEN you reboot, so definitely much better.
Watch out though as there are some programs that refuse to run under Server OSs, and some that have much more expensive licences to do so...
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Mike Winiberg wrote:
Watch out though as there are some programs that refuse to run under Server OSs, and some that have much more expensive licences to do so...
The few I've come across are generally utilities that are free for client OSes, and paid-for for the Server editions. None of these will be necessary here - this is intended to be for a VM running only development tools (primarily VS). My MSDN license should already cover that.
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A solution, ePost-It's!
Quote: Just installed it, looking forward to giving Microsoft the big one finger salute and taking control of when I want it to do updates.
I'll read this and I'll remember to be polite with Microsoft, Hahaha!
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Yes, this updates are very annoying...
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uSoft says they listen to their customers but how is that possible with there heads up there collective asses?
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Hmm. I save all documents and exit out of all important apps (Visual Studio, Word, etc.) before I leave for the day. The same thing happens at home when I'm done with the laptop for the evening. Both of these help ensure that power loss crashes are less likely to bork an open file. They also allow my automated nightly backups unfettered access.
This lets my Microsoft Updates run wild and free, just like nature intended. 
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there is nothing natural about anything microsoft does.
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Ahem[^]
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But I've had them happen while I went to get something to eat. In all cases I had saved my work, but not everyone would do that just to go out to grab a bite.
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Oh, I know they're a PITA. I'm just 'stirring the pot' a bit  .
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Ctrl+S is my favorite key combo. I use it roughly every 30 seconds or every time I stop to think or leave my chair for any reason.
So far the only losses came from a disk failure on my work laptop. Luckily, I had recent backups so not a big loss.
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That and Ctrl+Shift+S (Save All) in Visual Studio.
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That really plays havoc when editing documents on Sharepoint. Some of mine have several hundred versions because I've been well trained by MS tools to save at every pause. Its so ingrained its like breathing -- I do it without consciously knowing I'm doing it.
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Gary Wheeler wrote: save all documents and exit out of all important apps (Visual Studio, Word, etc.) before I leave for the day.
I do that too. My excuse was that I was feeling like crap and left work early that day. Not firing on all cylinders (actually, not sure there was fuel getting to the engine!)
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Marc Clifton wrote: My excuse was that I was feeling like crap and left work early that day. Not firing on all cylinders (actually, not sure there was fuel getting to the engine!)
Been there, done that, have the prescriptions to deal with it. In my case, it's usually a migraine, and it feels like the pistons are all around 110% of their nominal diameter.
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Windows 7 gave prompts to install updates (unless this was non-default settings which I set), which allowed for computer to run months without reboots.
But Win10 I just get pissed off at the end of most days needing to check what mundane text file or sql script is not saved.
Home computer I shutdown when not in use, only then to see that their are updates it will run. Where has the notification gone?
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I have found that the group policy for Windows Update: “No auto-restart with logged on users for scheduled automatic updates” does still work for Win 10 if the policy “Configure Automatic Updates” is configured to perform scheduled installations of updates (Option 4). I have it set up this way and users are notified and can choose to reboot, schedule the reboot, or even ignore. The update policies can be confusing and contradict each other so configure as few of these policies as possible.
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I suspect there's a fail safe built into Windows 10, because my experience is that if you manage to stop Windows 10 updates for long enough, eventually your PC will spontaneously crash, and when it comes back, Windows 10 updates will be re-enabled.
Took about 6 months as I recall. So, if you periodically do manual updates, you should be good.
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Set network connection 'Metered Connection' to 'On'.
Set Settings->Windows Update -> Advanced Options
'Automatically download updates, even over metered connections (charges may apply)' to 'Off'.
This will help, but does not prevent all restarts.
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The virus community has given you a BIG THUMBS UP  for your excellent post.
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