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Johnny J. wrote: When we discuss VB, you say that you're talking about new developments, when we're talking about VBA, suddenly that's no longer the case.
I'm just ensuring we have an understanding of the syntax we're using. When I talk about new developments I mean new stand-alone applications, but you don't write applications in VBA. I wanted to be clear that while you're correct that I wouldn't use VBA in a "new development" that isn't because VBA is not in use today but because you don't write apps in VBA. So I'm just being explicit about what I mean when I say "development". When you say development if you mean a project in general, then in that case I would say "yes", you would use VBA in a new development. The answer depends on the definition of "development", so I hope that clears that issue up.
Johnny J. wrote: VB as in "real" Visual Basic used for application development is very much still being used - even in new development projects.
Again I fear we're having issues with definitions here. When you say "VB" are you including "VB.net", as that makes it an entirely different argument. If by "VB" you mean "VB.net" then yes that is in use today, obviously, but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about the VB family (VB, VB2, VB3, VB4, VB5 and VB6). If by "VB" you really do mean VB and you're claiming that because 0.00000000000000001% of new developments uses it means I can't say "it isn't in use" or "no-one uses it anymore" then that is simply a ridiculous argument.
As for the rest of your post I find it kind strange that you're telling me I can't claim no-one uses VB because 0.00000000000000001% of projects use it, and in the same post imply that VBA isn't in use because you...one single person....don't like it? 
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F-ES Sitecore wrote: because you...one single person....don't like it?
Oh, I base it on much more than that. That was merely an illustration of one of the reason why it isn't used anymore....
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Johnny J: You can't say VB isn't in use because 0.0000000000001% of projects use it
Also Johnny J: You can't say VBA is still in use because I don't use it
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Well, if you don't believe me, why don't you just ask CP to make a poll about it??? Problem solved!
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Johnny J: You can't say VB isn't in use because 0.0000000000001% of projects use it
Also Johnny J: You can't say VBA is still in use because a poll of a minute sample say they don't use it
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Are you stuck in a time loop John Spartan? 
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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I also think the draw to Python has a little to do with the anti-Microsoft mantra, as well.
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Python created its own world: Its own installers, directory structures, identification, bug tracking and reporting... I guess this was deliberate. They wanted to close everything else out of their world, to be in control. Not cooperating with anyone (except to a very limited degree having others be their servants, delivering interfaces to the functions hard to get at in pure Python).
This power strategy succeeded. They managed to create an almost entirely closed ecosystem that was good enough for an increasing number of developers to move into. And the developers found it cosy and warm and all threats from competing ideas were closed out.
I don't mind Python as a language (except that I dislike all interpreted, non-compiled languages in general). But that power strategy goes on my nerves, trying to make things work in a mixed-language environment. Those Python guys refuse to relate to anything but Python at all. Whatever is used in other activities / projects is bluntly rejected, unless there is a Python interface so that they can pretend that the world is all Python...
There is so much about the Python "society" that reminds me of the worst stories about MS strategy, even those with no truth to them. It seems like if you have a non-commercial (hah!) ideology, then those detestable methods are fully acceptable and even loveable!
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Where exactly he kept the cigarettes and the match?
Probably still drunk at that point...
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Ha yeah! 
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"... in a drunken fight".
Drunks feel no pain, they have no working brain cells. And the call of nicotine can be very powerful in them. Go out for the night in Newcastle, and you'll see similar thought processes going on. 
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Interesting story, but jeez, couldn't Daily Mail fit in a little more ads on their site to make it even more difficult to read it???? 
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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It is free news, got to pay for it somehow!
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Yeah, well. It's a question of balance. Once users find that they get more ads than news, they will look for different sources of information... And then it won't matter any more how many ads Daily Mail have! 
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
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Or use a hosts file.
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I don't like it. It's too simple, too clear cut.[^]
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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Makes you feel kinda' proud - that's one hell of a product the American Indians unleashed upon the white man - excellent revenge for the abuse and genocide they suffered.
Think how many "war movies" had the soldier, with his dying breath, ask for and/or suck on a cigarette! Made it kind of an expected normal.
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Tell St Peter at the Golden Gate
That you hate to make him wait
But you just gotta have another cigarette
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Good god what are the Russians made of!
Vodka...Vodka...
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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Do with one in a bit of a check (6)
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Oh, very good! 
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OK, no one else seems interested, so I'll take one for the team: PARITY
Do PAR TY
with one in I a bit of a check
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: no one else seems interested
Twas far too hard for me, no way I was getting "party" from "do" (although I get it now you have said it)
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