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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: If nothing wasn't something
Reminds me of a cartoon I saw in a 'sophisticated gentlemen's magazine'  . It showed a podium labeled with a large 'N', and a crowd of folks with their hands in the air, leaning toward it.
Two guys are standing nearby, looking at the scene. One asks the other, "Is Nothing sacred?"
Software Zen: delete this;
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Daughter gave us restaurant gift coupon via Amazon, for our anniversary (58).
Email gave us URL to get it, since it was not an Amazon coupon. First says "unsafe", then 404. Tried with Firefox and Chromium. Fails with both. Called Amazon, they sent another. Same thing. Fired up a W10 virtual machine and tried with Edge. Shazam, I have my coupon. ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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So edge lets you be sucked in by unsafe web-sites?
Noted. Cheers!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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 that piece of software is pathetic. The next microsoft browser version should be better, since I do not think it can get worse.
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I wouldn't bet
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Well, they're redesigning edge to use the chromium engine. In other news, some muckety-muck at Microslop said mozilla should cease development on firefox because (paraphrasing) "having one browser is better than having multiple browsers".
Yeah. Right...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Change the browser agent to indicate Internet Explorer/Windows in either chrome or firefox, and I bet it works.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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What in gods green earth would require Slack to consume 1/2 Gig of RAM? It's a f***ing messaging app!!! Or Postman, which is really nothing but an awful front-end UI for sending REST API calls and receiving responses?
Between the two of them, 1GB. Two Visual Studio instances, another 1.5GB. SQL Server + SSMS, 700MB.
And don't even get me started on Chrome. 17 tabs and almost 5GB. Close Chrome, restart with exactly the same 17 tabs, and now it uses a meager 2GB.
WTF? On a 16GB machine, I had 90% memory utilization (there are other things too, stuff consuming 200MB, etc). F***ing insane.
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Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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Interesting. I knew it was basically a custom browser, but jeez, I had no idea how bad.
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Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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I recall reading an article roughly 10 years ago where the guru from some tech company (Microsoft, Apple, Google, Adobe, Oracle... - I don't remember) made the argument that being ultra efficient with RAM use was foolish - after all having a bunch of unused RAM isn't helping anything. His advice was use as much as you want and let the OS manage it.
Today we see the result of said advice... 
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10 news for every delete - that's the way to go. 
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Mike Mullikin wrote: Today we see the result of said advice..
It really does seem that way. All I can think is these apps load everything into memory as a distinct object and then never let it go. It's just crazy -- no lazy loading, no setting things to null after done with use. Just wanton memory eating with no thought.
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raddevus wrote: no lazy loading
That's unfortunate naming, for once. Loading everything at once IS the lazy way of achieving it. 
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surely the OS can handle that ...oh wait, it's winduds.
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If you plan to run multiple OSes, you're advised to pack a lot of RAM, whichever your host OS is. Because the guest OS (Chrome) will not be appeased by single digits gigs of RAM.
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Free the mallocs!
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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Free the Guildford Four! The Birmingham Six! The Renault Five!
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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if you open Task Manager, and watch Postman's memory usage, you can actually see it adding about 0.1 MB/sec, just sitting there, doing nothing.
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Chris Losinger wrote: just sitting there, doing nothing.
Except leaking memory! 
Ironic, I got this email from Postman last week basically tooting their horn about how great they are, how much their customer base has grown, etc. Sad, because their UI sucks, and their app sucks too IMHO.
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Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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Marc Clifton wrote: I got this email from Postman last week basically tooting their horn about how great they are,
It's great because it stands alone.
There is Fiddler - Free Web Debugging Proxy - Telerik[^] too but it isn't much better (UI or memory leakage).
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Marc Clifton wrote: consume 1/2 Gig of RAM
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Slack App? Why not use the browser?
Oh you've covered Chrome!
I got nothing to say.
Okay wait, I got one important thing to say- Postman is Sh*t.
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Marc Clifton wrote: F***ing insane.
Agreed!!
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