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Nope. From the onset of puberty to around age 25, boys just grunt. Occasionally they will whine, moan, or storm off in a huff. Painting the bedroom black is also an option. Conversation is not a priority for them, particularly with old folk (i.e. anyone over 25) who clearly will not be able to understand them in any way so why bother.
Fortunately, they do grow out of being little sh*ts, but it takes time ...
You do realise that on their 18th birthday you can dump all their stuff outside the house and change the locks?
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Quote: You do realise that on their 18th birthday you can dump all their stuff outside the house and change the locks?
It is not simple like that, here.
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OriginalGriff wrote: You do realise that on their 18th birthday you can dump all their stuff outside the house and change the locks?
I keep hearing that.
Yet a co-worker of mine was still paying support to his ex-wife because his kid was living with her and into university until her mid-20s.
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Not mine, they (9 & 13) keep breaking my ...ls for all and the most silly reasons. 
Moreover they are very different from each other, so I guess you cannot generalize.
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The only const in relation to kids is the change - they differ from one another (and even looks similar you are doomed if try the same approach). They also change over time (sometime several times the same day)...
I have 4 of them and can drive me crazy within 2 seconds they open their eyes...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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I can't comment about sons - I only have daughters.
My two daughters (16 & 14) do actually spend time with the "old fogies" (my wife & myself). That is almost the only thing they have in common - their interests, concerns, etc. are totally different.
I suspect that this is true of many, if not most, families. YMMV 
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Social media is the destruction of the family. No wonder they call it the "nuclear family." 
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Having 3 children, daughter 26, son 22 and son 18, I can confirm that between the ages of 12 and 23 that in their eyes I have become a blithering idiot who has no valid opinion and only lives to torment their lives.
My daughter has fully come out of this and a pleasant mother to my grandson.
My oldest son is starting to come around gradually (He even cleaned his room without being asked last week!)
As for the youngest, he is beginning to realize that moving out would be terrible for him at this time. (He's the son we had to check into a mental health facility for depression a couple of years ago. He seems to be doing better now.)
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Nah, kids change over time.
And, it's probably just you.
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super wrote: Do boys too behave in a similar manner?
Weren't you a boy yourself once? What would you say, based on that?
Not that I have any myself, but I guess having kids brings a whole new perspective on how you were to your own parents. Now that you're a parent yourself, you can choose to sympathize or antagonize.
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Yes, the dynamics do change. Our "kids" are in the 30s and 40s now. They were OK until the preteen/teen years. Then they morphed into some sort of alien creatures. Then they grew up, entered the real world, and we are closer than I ever imagined. And I was the same way with my parents.
The key is crystal clarity that you offer unconditional love to them as individuals. That the only thing that is required to have that love is that they exist. Good or bad, you will never desert them or disown them. Saying "no", however, is often the best sign of love in a situation. My kids as teens would get so frustrated with me being immovable on certain things, but they understood that, whether I would later be proven right or wrong, I was acting to protect them while they were still minors.
Girls are usually a different dynamic in the implementation. You can talk sternly to boys, and they usually get it. Talk sternly to your little girl, and the tears flow! At first, earnestly, because a girl's feelings and emotions are different and delicate. Then they learn how to use tears as a weapon.
Adapt to the unique character of each child, be patient, and they will eventually return to being human.
Oh, and no matter how strong the urge, do not follow the animal kingdom (which sometimes eats their young) or give them away. If the latter, whoever takes them will just bring them back.
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Quote about broken rod is explosive(7)
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Tomorrow I am taking a day off so will not answer it
cheers,
Super
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You don't have t'interwebs at home? 
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I do , but will be out doing some stuff outside (German bureaucracy is no cake walk).
Anyway I will see if anyone else with cbite the answer.
cheers,
Super
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Cordite
C ite = Quote
ord = Anagram of "rod"
Hopefully I can find time today to come up with a clue...
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Is the correct answer!
You are up tomorrow.
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It's cold outside and my girl friends been at the window for hours.
Sooner or later I'll have to let her in, then what?
Ok I'm bored, I know where the door is!
I may not be that good looking, or athletic, or funny, or talented, or smart
I forgot where I was going with this but I do know I love bacon!
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Wait until she's frozen, then she can't fight anymore. It also helps to put the DVD of Frozen on 
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Good idea about waiting until she's frozen, I can wheel her in on a dolly!
As far as putting a DVD of Frozen on, ah no. I had never heard of them so I googled...holy sh*t they suck! I wouldn't do that to her, cruel and unusual punishment!
I may not be that good looking, or athletic, or funny, or talented, or smart
I forgot where I was going with this but I do know I love bacon!
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hehe
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This wouldn't be like the time you took her water-skiing in the 'Glades would it?
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Same girl friend, she just doesn't appreciate anything I do for her?
I may not be that good looking, or athletic, or funny, or talented, or smart
I forgot where I was going with this but I do know I love bacon!
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Wait until the wife has gone out first.
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And that's how the fight started!
I may not be that good looking, or athletic, or funny, or talented, or smart
I forgot where I was going with this but I do know I love bacon!
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