|
Got any tip on how I can explain that to my boss? Developer became manager trying to micromanage everything not getting me being a fan of "The right tool for the job" including "Process complexity dependent on the result complexity".
|
|
|
|
|
Forogar wrote: does anyone actually like it?
I don't dislike it. It works great for what I need. Maybe you aren't familiar enough with it?
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
|
|
|
|
|
If you mean "Marvel Vs Capcom" then yes! 
|
|
|
|
|
Yes.
But then only when appropriate, not as a silver bullet. Knowing a design-pattern means that you can also identify the places where you don't need it.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
|
|
|
|
|
Didn't you know MVC stands for "Malformed Vulgar Coding" 
Definitely dislike it !
|
|
|
|
|
The design pattern or Microsoft's framework?
|
|
|
|
|
Nish Nishant wrote: The design pattern or Microsoft's framework?
This is the best reply/question to the OP because :
1. MVC the pattern doesn't make anything more difficult. It could even be considered the beginning of OOP -- since if you think MVC (the pattern) makes things difficult you probably don't understand anything about OOP.
2. MVC (Microsoft's ASP.NET Framework) does have a bit of complexity but that is actually more related to all the technologies that you have to swallow in one bite. As soon as you create a ASP.NET MVC you get the MVC pattern plus, jQuery, Bootstrap, JavaScript, C#, CSS, Bundling and Minifying and other things thrown at you and so then yes some people feel overwhelmed.
|
|
|
|
|
Absolutely, along with most of the various permutations (MVP, MVVM...).
Unless you mean MVC.NET and Razor, in which case not so much.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity."
- Hanlon's Razor
|
|
|
|
|
Actually, I love it. From when I first learned Castle Monorail 15 years ago, my first thought was " This is the way my brain thinks"
I find webforms much more sledge-hammery.
Truth,
James
|
|
|
|
|
I converted to Microsoft's framework years ago. I believe it was still alpha, at the time. I absolutely love it. I was also trained on Java Servlet Pages in school and these used the MVC pattern and I quite like those. I have developed WebForms applications and WinForm applications as well. MVC, in any form, is a tool and you have to understand how, and where, to use it. For the vast majority of my development, it is the perfect tool. The conversion from WebForms took a bit, but once I invested the time I wouldn't return to WebForms unless I had to.
|
|
|
|
|
Quote: I was also trained
aaah! There's the rub!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
|
|
|
|
|
if you are referring to Microsoft's MVC.Net I love it.
It took a while for me to switch from webforms, the design pattern and extras (like routing, minifying, jquery, etc..) that get included in the starter template could be overwhelming but once I got the gist of it I never wanted to go back to webforms
It plays very nice in my mind with Xamarin, as the structure and design of an app and a webapp seem very familiar and correlate to each other
|
|
|
|
|
I enjoy working using MVC for my projects.
What I do not like is all of the overhead of the templates, so I will stick to developing as a SOC project that may vary within as the needs and refinements are built. One page could be MVC and another could be MVVM. Heck, my last MVC CMS actually utilizes a straight ASPX page complete with code-behind.
Director of Transmogrification Services
Shinobi of Query Language
Master of Yoda Conditional
|
|
|
|
|
I have used MVC for straightforward projects but I have to say that it can become too complicated for some applications. In these cases a good mix of javascript and json does the job a lot better than MVC or some of the other frameworks (Xamarin. I'm thinking about you...)
I'm a great believer in the KISS principle.
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
|
|
|
|
|
In my world... adding in javascript and JSON would be ok, it's part of the view and could be populated with another controller+action
Director of Transmogrification Services
Shinobi of Query Language
Master of Yoda Conditional
|
|
|
|
|
It's such a pathetic experience trying to export the mail dumps from server to a local .pst file.
By default , Outlook shows you just few files or no files, if the mails are old. It just downloads the header and shows you. Its not exactly downloading to local cache
Now I follow their doc and do export the mails, A folder of 2GB in server, finishes export to PST with 800MB. It worked just for a folder.
There's no way to force Outlook to download all the files to local cache 
The UI is just frustrating.
Adding to this, the normal export-pst wizard ends with an "Unknown erro". I'm creating a dummy pst and then manually moving from server folder to this.
When I just drag & drop the entire folder, nothing gets copied but the empty folder structure.
I'm getting into each sub-folder, click on "Show more files" then it downloads the header and shows me the mails list. Then I select-all and copy the items to the dummy pst file created.
Any better way to do this? 
Full Reset
|
|
|
|
|
are you using the desktop client of Outlook or is this the online client?
I wold try using the desktop client to do this. If that does not work, then I have no other suggestions. I very rarely need to do what you are doing. Actually, haven't needed to do this for many years.
good luck.
Edit: forgot to mention, that no one can get that Lotus award. That is only for a special kind of madness. Outlook is no where near as bad as Lotus was/is. 
|
|
|
|
|
A little late to the party, but this worked for me:
[^]How to export Office 365 mailboxes to PST using eDiscovery[^]
Intuitive after you do it a few times.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
|
|
|
|
|
theoldfool wrote: Intuitive after you do it a few times.
No, it becomes habit.
|
|
|
|
|
My problem is thatt I have an Outlook PST file with about 10 years worth of emails, but I forgot the password, so I can even see them.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
|
|
|
|
|
|
My default is set to "sod off" anyway, so as expected my MS stored history was empty.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
|
|
|
|
|
There's a patch available...
Download Ubuntu Desktop | Download | Ubuntu[^]
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
-----
You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
-----
When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
|
|
|
|
|
|
Really? Citing a six-year-old article ain't exactly relevant...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
-----
You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
-----
When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
|
|
|
|
General 
News 
Suggestion 
Question 
Bug 
Answer 
Joke 
Praise 
Rant 
Admin 
Submit an article or tip
