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Gates because he could program, and so valued software... built a ~Bliinndingly! Successful business around faith in it, and the value it can create. Jobs sold hardware. Software was a means to that end for him, not the end. I always hated how closed and controlling Apple was/is. It's too arrogant of a position for my tastes.
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To leave some summary comments:
Most of the focus was on the businesses of Apple and Microsoft.
No one mentioned Gates shift toward philanthropy once he could (mostly) leave Microsoft to its own devices and give curing the next (insert what being worked on now). Contrast that with Jobs which had not signed up to the Giving Pledge group.
As people - lots said about Jobs' personality, but some comments provided that Gate's not a shining angle either.
And i will leave this final thought: If one of them had not existed, would the other be as successful in their own right as they have been?
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Who has provided more influence in the tech industry?
Steve Jobs. Gates gave us BASIC and an OS he stole from Jobs (who copied it from Xerox).
Which was better at pong?
I would guess Jobs because he once worked at Atari, but I don't say that with authority since I never saw either play.
Who was the better CEO?
Jobs. A good manager gets his workers to do what he wants, regardless of the method (rewards, threats, whatever). Apple WAS Jobs; Microsoft had various factions infighting.
Who have helped the world better with their technology solutions?
Gates probably helped developers more; after all, he complained about open source, created the idea of software licensing, etc. Jobs provided more to society. Apple provided the first commercially successful microcomputer, the first commercially successful GUI, the only commercially successful "music box", and the model for EVERY cellphone today (Android is more popular than iPhone, but anyone saying it didn't start as a copy of iPhone is just lying).
Who was smarter?
Bill Gates. Created an empire; perfected "embrace, extend, extinguish"; still looked like a rock when compared to Jobs' charisma, salesmanship and con-man ability.
Which looked better in a black turtleneck and blue jeans?
I've seen a lot of different women named, and I'd agree with ANY of them over these two.
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0">Steve Jobs vs Bill Gates. Epic Rap Battles of History - YouTube</a>[<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0" target="_blank" title="New Window">^</a>]</a>[<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0" target="_blank" title="New Window">^</a>]
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I didn't know that was possible before I read OG's reply to my message below.
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Oh yes - report the buggers as quick as possible!
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I think I got him pretty quick, 5 posts and then his profile; before I went to bed
Director of Transmogrification Services
Shinobi of Query Language
Master of Yoda Conditional
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Wow - it's pretty bad today...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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It is.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - Have you got a spare lying around we can borrow?
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Oh John buys ammo by the ton, he should have some spare! Huntin' Spammers? 
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I have enough ammo to take care of the problem, but have not received an official request for abatement.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Take a look at the "Design and Architecture" forum; you think I'm going to navigate to each profile-page to report them?
As for the AI that is supposed to be the spam-filter - it only reacts on members, as far as I can see, preventing them from answering. Doesn't prevent them buggers from posting.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Doesn't prevent them buggers from posting.
I think Chris should look into another, more secure way of posting. PITA for us to use for sure, but it would cut down on these types of events. captcha, retina scan, voice is my command type of stuff, etc.
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Slacker007 wrote: I think Chris should look into another, more secure way of posting. PITA for us to use for sure, but it would cut down on these types of events. captcha, retina scan, voice is my command type of stuff, etc.
Just flag every new profile who posts multiple times in a single board.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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There are over 1400 spam messages in the design and architecture forum. f*** that.
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I flagged over 600, and no proof that the hamster learned anything.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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40 pages of spam and counting at present. Does anyone have @chris-maunder 's phone number or a priority email; this needs more powerful tools than we mortals have to deal with.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I'm here, just putting the heavy boots on
cheers
Chris Maunder
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QA looks good now, but the Design and Architecture forum still needs a hazmat suit to vist.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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The list in the Design & architecture forum is still growing. Is there an option to ban on keywords, or phonenumbers in the title?
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Normally all of this would have been caught by the hamsters ... I think the hamsters were caught napping today!
I was counting the minutes to business hours in Canada!
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CHill60 wrote: Normally all of this would have been caught by the hamsters ... I think the hamsters were caught napping today!
I think I have proven already that the AI does not learn. After flagging 600 messages, it still doesn't see the rest of the similar posts in the same forum as spam.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I think the learning has been doing well for this last year ... clearly it was not switched on today!
And AFAIK it's never been applied retrospectively ... the filter is supposed to push the messages into a moderation queue before they appear in the forums not remove them afterwards. Then @sean-ewington and/or @chris-maunder don their waders and shovel away the s...t
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CHill60 wrote: clearly it was not switched on today!
Ah, it's on holiday? I hear Curacao is nice this time of year 
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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