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GuyThiebaut wrote:
For some strange reason many employers seem to believe that the more you earn the more competent you must be.

Which is part of the problem. Let's say you accept a position as a "Junior Dev" with a bracket of 40-60k/yr starting at 45k/yr. You kill it and get a raise to 50k/yr. You earn more and more complex work over a couple years and continue killing it. But HR can't promote you. There are no positions. And the company doesn't want to give you a raise because it would shift you out-of-line with other "Junior Devs" on the team - even if the bracket still allows a 10k furtherance.

So you see yourself going nowhere and jump ship. Apply to a bunch of places; maybe some don't give you any attention because of your title; maybe some do. Let's focus on the ones that do. So they see your title as "Junior Dev" and see that you made 50k/yr. Let's say the position is a normal "Software Dev" position with a 55-85k bracket. What do you think they're gonna offer you?

Your previous position was not reflective in title or compensation to the work you ended up doing. But that same title and compensation data will be used to determine how "important" you were relative to the general baseline pay. Something that isn't consistent at all between companies. This could easily backfire into a 55-60k offer even though the value they might get is more in line with 70-75k.

HR doesn't know who you are. They don't look at your GitHub projects. You're just a group of statistics on a piece of paper. If you aren't mindful of how those statistics reflect on you, it could easily stunt career growth. Because as you said,
GuyThiebaut wrote:
For some strange reason many employers seem to believe that the more you earn the more competent you must be.

I'm not saying this is always the case. It probably also differs from country to country and market to market. The point is that just because it might not have occurred to you currently does not make it any less of a topic worth considering for the future.
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