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I've seen them on some computer products. such as hard drives.
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not forgetting hex, (and if you're smart you'll use wira bits for those).
Signature ready for installation. Please Reboot now.
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Lopatir wrote: not forgetting hex, (and if you're smart you'll use wira bits for those).
As Griff said, Allen, the correct name for them.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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OriginalGriff wrote: opens with a coin
Finally, a good counterpoint on why a slotted screw might be nice. 
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Pozidriv is not just another name, it is a very different head compared to Phillips.
You cannot use a Pozidriv bit on a Phillips head and a Phillips bit on a Pozidriv screw very easily starts stripping.
Sometimes wikipedia is the way to go...
List of screw drives - Wikipedia[^]
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I thought they were called "plus" and "minus" ...
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The chain-tightener on my chain saw uses a 'slot' screw and I use a manual screw driver - much less chance of 'stripping' the screw and rendering a piece of equipment useless.
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Tim Carmichael wrote: less chance of 'stripping' the screw and rendering a piece of equipment useless
That's a good point. Interesting too that they are used to limit the user's ability.
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It's all about usage and aesthetics.
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
The End
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That's why I always use Arthur's Head screws.
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When I was a kid, we undid screws with a "Standard" kitchen butter knife. Try doing that with one of those phillips-type screws.
Even today, I have an amazingly hard time finding a phillips screwdriver in my home, but I know that standard screw will come out whether I have a screwdriver or not.
Brent
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dbrenth wrote: When I was a kid, we undid screws with a "Standard" kitchen butter knife.
I won't turn you in (this time), but I don't believe that is legal.
Nor are you to refer to yourself as Engineer without the proper certification.
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Simple. "Why would any modern product use a standard screw ... etc?"
No modern product would use a standard screw. Any product using a standard screw is unevolved and neanderthalian. Natural selection, in it's most intelligent up- to-date form, socially darwinistic and all/etc, dictates that the evolution of the mind of the user enables this more informed buyer to make the right decision with respect to PURCHASING the engineered product that is more highly evolved.
Economically, supply and demand takes over in this case.
To do the math with respect to the genetic algorithm that generates the extinction of the standard screwdriver will be left to the high-minded developer who has the knowledge to implement it and test in realtime the actual blip on the radar which signals that event has really passed.
In other words, extinction hasn't happened yet but venture capitalists will make sure that it does.
Unless of course what you mean by "modern" is really some clock on some Roman soldiers villa wall.
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Ergo, don't friggin' call it "standard"!
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Ergo, don't friggin' call it "standard"!
I believe his name is RedDk.
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I agree entirely and at least 95.2% (considering all standard deviation units).
I believe this will fundamentally change AI in ways that haven't been foretold yet.
No one can disagree.
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"disagree"
Ha! No matter when, there'll always be someone who'll disagree with you. Offer Geritol in copius doses and ... Bob's 'yer uncle.
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Slotted: easy to rebuild the slot in case it gets damaged.
Philips: you can apply much more torque in case the srew gets stuck.
The others: f*** them, their sons, their ancestors, their dogs and their teeth. Good as they may be you are certifiably 100% lacking the proper tool to disassemble them.
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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I like the two points and agree with them.
den2k88 wrote: you are certifiably 100% lacking the proper tool to disassemble them
Agree with this too. So annoying. I remember wanting to take a old HDD which had crashed apart and I couldn't find a star driver to fit it anywhere.
Look how many screws there are: quite terrible ==> List of screw drives - Wikipedia[^]
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Look, if you have ever tried a TRUE Robertson ALL the rest are painful.
Note: Not to be confused with the inferior square heads. What is the difference? The taper which effectively locks the driver in to the screw head. When you think about it is so obviously the best way. Slots, Philips, etc. all chatter to some degree - even Allen keys. Even a cheaply made screw is held tightly because of the fundamental design - a taper.
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AAC Tech wrote: if you have ever tried a TRUE Robertson ALL the rest are painful.
Interesting. I looked up robertson screw and stumbled upon the wiki on screws.
wow, there are so many!
List of screw drives - Wikipedia[^]
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As far as I can see, this debate hasn't nailed much down.
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