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Brilliant. I hope this goes into CP folklore
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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You got my 5 !!!
Cheers
You have the thought that modern physics just relay on assumptions, that somehow depends on a smile of a cat, which isn’t there.( Albert Einstein)
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I just had a LN moment 
I love the phrase. Dogbert has "in-duh-vidual", we have Liquid Nitrogen
Charlie Gilley
<italic>You're going to tell me what I want to know, or I'm going to beat you to death in your own house.
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
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Quote: But, some of the questions that you see posted in the programming forums, make you wonder,...what could he have POSSIBLY been thinking? I can understand that having to translate statements from your native language into the english language may be challenging,...but,...
I think that there should be a special web form for posting questions under programming forums, including the problem description and "what I have tried" fields that are filled out separately by the member who's giving a question.
Quote: from your native language into the english language may be challenging,...but,...
Also, I would recommend that a primitive online translator from some languages other than English, as well as a spell-checker is integrated into forum's moderation tools, so that moderators would easily translate those confusing and hardly understood texts into English and know what these text are about.
Thanks a lot.
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Arthur V. Ratz wrote:
Also, I would recommend that a primitive online translator from some languages other than English, as well as a spell-checker is integrated into forum's moderation tools, so that moderators would easily translate those confusing and hardly understood texts into English and know what these text are about.
I believe that's called mind reading. Good luck finding a good one who is fluent in two or more spoken languages, plus a few programming languages. They would need all of the foregoing skills.
David A. Gray
Delivering Solutions for the Ages, One Problem at a Time
Interpreting the Fundamental Principle of Tabular Reporting
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Quote: I believe that's called mind reading. Good luck finding a good one who is fluent in two or more spoken languages, plus a few programming languages.
I completely agree with you, but anyway, the using of translators and spellcheckers might provide a sufficient help in reading posts written in the other languages.
For example, I often post various technical questions under software.intel.com programming forums. In many cases, under these forums, I post my questions in Ukrainian, which is my native language, and after that receive various replies posted by English-speaking persons in the same Ukrainian language. Of course, the people from Intel use embedded translators to quickly interpret posts into English for the correct understanding it.
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Undoubtedly translators and spelling checkers would help. My point was simply that they are insufficient by themselves.
David A. Gray
Delivering Solutions for the Ages, One Problem at a Time
Interpreting the Fundamental Principle of Tabular Reporting
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From one respect, I entirely agree with you as I've already explained in my previous posts. In this case, there's the only way is that these posts containing incomplete programming questions must be removed by forum's moderators.
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I like the fact that some of the forums are shared between the C++/.NET, Java, and LAMP sites, but is there a way to indicate which forums are shared?
Scott.
—In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday.
—Hey, hey, hey. Don't be mean. We don't have to be mean because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
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By a quick guess, the non-technical forums like Lounge, Soapbox, Suggestions, Work Issues should be shared.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
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A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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Can you stop re-posting this like this and perhaps try emailing Chris directly? Whether you post it once or a dozen times, it's still one guy who's going to decide whether to help you out or not, so it is perhaps sensible not to try and annoy him by spamming his forums 
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If you're browsing through the Q/A forums and read an answer that's correct for the question, should you vote "helpful answer"? I usually do, but then I started thinking that maybe the person asking the question didn't think it was helpful to them.
No big deal. I just didn't want people that are trying to help to think the OP thought it was helpful when it was just someone else entirely.
Maybe a different "flag" if the OP votes it useful to them? Many (most) don't bother, but it would be nice if the person answering knew that their response(s) did help. Maybe a gold star or thank you icon next to the answer?
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As soon as I'm back from TechEd I'll be implementing something that should solve this
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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...is a lurker?  WTF[^]? He's posted quite a few number of messages and he's been a member for 4+ years. 
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero
.·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·.
Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
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For some reason, his profile shows 0 Messages and 0 Articles. However, when I click 'Messages', I see two pages of his message postings. 
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
Tech Gossips
A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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Hey, I noticed that the MVP status does not extend to the LAMP forums. Is this by design or oversight?
Brad
Australian
The PHP MVP
- Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript"
A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.
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Design. MVP status for LAMP and Java will be assigned at the end of the year based on articles that appear on those sites and participation in forums on that site. Allows us to award those members who are, say, strong in PHP but may not be as strong in the C++/.NET arena
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris,
I never understood the special handling of non-Microsoft technology.
Why can't you have Java, PHP, Apache, MySQL, etc be treated just like everything else,
i.e. give them their forums alongside all the other forums.
That way, you would share users, MVPs, lounge, suggestions & bugs forum, etc etc.
And save a lot of code and trouble.
And keep things simple.
And get an easy way to search it all.
And avoid questions like this one, and the one above it (by Scott).
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Secounded. But alas I feel that Chris has made up his mind.
Brad
Australian
The PHP MVP
- Christian Graus on "Best books for VBscript"
A big thick one, so you can whack yourself on the head with it.
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Luc Pattyn wrote: That way, you would share users, MVPs, lounge, suggestions & bugs forum, etc etc.
The sites already share users (at least the .NET and LAMP sites do, the Java site doesn't but it's supposed to). And they also already share some forums. (As you mentioned in reference to question[^].
I actually don't mind having the sites separate for a couple of reasons:
1. I don't have to sort/filter articles and messages based on technology.
2. Many people don't have experience/expertise across technologies and/or platforms.
Scott.
—In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday.
—Hey, hey, hey. Don't be mean. We don't have to be mean because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
[ Forum Guidelines] [ Articles] [ Blog]
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Scott Dorman wrote: I actually don't mind having the sites separate ...
I do. I'm a C# proigrammer. I occasionally use other languages such as VB.NET and Java.
I don't see why these languages get treated completely differently: for VB.NET I just go to
another forum, for Java I am supposed to visit a similar but different site alltogether.
I would prefer Chris and staff spend their time in improving the site's functionality, rather
than duplicating and debugging again lots of stuff.
A good filter, user selectable, conttolled through "my settings", would allow users to only see
what they are interested in; a single merged site (and really functional search facilities) would
offer the possibility to search everything in a single go, again subject to a handy filter system.
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The reason is because we have 5 million users and 9 years of history overshadowing everything. We want new LAMP and Java sites to start with their own quirks and idiosynchrocies and we want members there to be able to express their views without worrying about the heavy Microsoft contigent.
We've debated this internally a lot over the last few years and want to give the Java and LAMP sites a chance to be themselves. If we make it all once big site from the outset then we'll never be able to go back. But if we try it this way first then at least we can see what happens.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Hi Chris,
I see, thanks.
I wonder what new quirks you will come up with. 
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