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Trouble is, a lot of these animals have lived so long in zoos, or were born there, that they would never survive in their natural habitat.
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... which pretty much describes my last job.
I'm retired. There's a nap for that...
- Harvey
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Yeah, been there more than once. 
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More than that, it is an intelligent jungle beast. It should have far more stimulation than a fairly bare cage.
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Being able to communicate so intricately, is one of the most powerful tools humans have at their disposal. But we aren't only ones. This may not be news to some but it is very interesting.
I am not the one who knocks. I never knock.
In fact, I hate knocking.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: The idea that man is separate from nature is preposterous.
Yep, it always boggles my mind when people speak of animals like we aren't one ourselves 
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Indeed. I hate it when people believe that animals don't have emotions and feelings. Where do they think our emotions and feelings came from?
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Alcohol and drugs.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Elephants in SA intentionally eat rotting apples to get the alcohol hit.
Oh, did you see the 'drunk monkeys' vid on you tube?
A troop of them live near an 'all you can drink' beach resort somewhere. They move in in the afternoon to drink the left overs.And love it. It really is very funny, pissed monkeys falling about.
But interestingly the proportion of abstainers, moderate drinkers, and complete piss heads is roughly the same as in the human population.
We are so close to nature. And admitting that allows us to understand ourselves better.
Far better than to pretend we were made by some kind of super being. It also allows us to take possession of our own morality, our own judgement. And that gives us power.
And I think that is why Protestantism, the religion that does take possession of these things, compared to Catholicism, is the region of Europe from which stemmed industry, engineering, and the modern world.
Virtually all scientific, medical, engineering, social, economic and political advances of the last 500 years has come from the part of the world where Protestantism started. Northern Europe.
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Feelings?
Whenever someone claims that animals have no feelings, I tell about my St. Bernhard, who was dumb enough to believe he could catch cats, would try to chase them. He could almost (but not quite) get up to the speed of the cat running towards this dense hedgerow, slipping under it. My 80 kg St Bernhard tried to follow it, slamming into the hedgerow with such power that it made the ground shake...
He curled his tail firmly to his belly, bowed his head looking into the ground - he didn't dare to meet my eyes for an hour or two. He was so ashamed that he didn't even want me to pet him, turning his head away from me. I really felt sorry for him then, but I admit that I did laugh like crazy when it happened. (Before you ask: He was in no way physically hurt by the incident, only mentally.)
I cannot belive that anyone who saw that dog would deny that animals have feelings. Strong feelings. Norwegian national television is currently showing a British 2-part documentary "Animals in love" (made for BBC by Oxford Scientific Films). If all of that is "instincts only", then a major part of my own feelings as well are nothing but instincts...
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Animals are smart, he definitely is a cool monkey.
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Animals are considered smart, this video that you have shared is pretty cool.
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I was reading yet again about another cryptoware outbreak being delivered by a DOC file with the subject being "Invoice". Now businesses run on invoices being conveyed & paid all the time, and so I can say how easy it can be for a payment clerk to click on yet another message that says "Invoice" with a DOC file. I think I've read that PDF files can be hacked as well.
And I've been noticing that customer businesses I deal with (i.e., with myself as the customer) don't allow me to send a PDF file of whatever documentation they demand, but rather only a stupid fax through Ma Bell, causing me to use a service like GotFreeFax to send my PDF file.  And this makes me wonder if this will cause all these "smart" file types like DOC or PDF to become obsolete for regular business, with them using a "stupid" file type like BMP to transmit a static document. (I presume that BMP is impossible to hack ...)
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Or in general a dumbing down of formats. Many of the attack vectors are in Weird Features that no one uses, so disable them by default.
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Especially when a seemingly-innocuous file format was designed to allow embedded code to run as soon as the file is opened! 
Windows Metafile vulnerability - Wikipedia[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Ah that shines a light on an issue I had recently, I needed to fill a PDF form for a bank recently and the only way they would accept it was via fax. I was quite annoyed that they were so old fashioned, attack vectors were not considered.
I refused to send my banking details via a free fax service, hunting down a real fax machine was a challenge.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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My printer / scanner unit can double as a fax, apparently. Never tried, or wanted to - last time I saw a fax was around the start of the century! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Fax is still very common in international business in lesser developed parts of Asia / Africa, South America, it's not that they don't have email, it's just not that reliable (and lets face it less secure) - fax being analog can handle transmission errors (black dots/streaks) better, and don't come with viruses.
And of course you all know billions trillions of dollars of inter-bank fund transfers are ordered/confirmed using Telex, even with banks right next to each other they will not accept the business any other way including hand delivered.
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OriginalGriff wrote: last time I saw a fax was around the start of the century!
Last time I saw a fax was... never
Cheers,
विक्रम
"We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: Ah that shines a light on an issue I had recently, I needed to fill a PDF form for a bank recently and the only way they would accept it was via fax. I was quite annoyed that they were so old fashioned, attack vectors were not considered.
I refused to send my banking details via a free fax service, hunting down a real fax machine was a challenge.
I think businesses are in essence forcing the technology to be dumb by only working with a fax, which on their side simply get saved as a bitmap anyway. What they need to do is to let folks send a fax by E-mail, which would be in a FAX type of format (which TIFF seems to be). The E-mail client could check that the attachment is such a file in that format, and it should be no problem.
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Its a least common denominator -- everybody can usually figure out how to send a FAX. Amusingly, many of those places don't actually have FAX machines themselves or deal with the physical paper -- they have a FAX-receiving service that turns it into a PDF.
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We still have some shops where you can pay a good price to send a fax. Haven't needed a fax in some two years now, on my PC or anywhere.
"'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself."
—Aleister Crowley
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I recall long ago when email was text and only text and the understanding was that you could not get a virus by reading an email. For you youngsters, i'm going well back into the 90s. I work with a guy that is about my age - all I get from him are plain text emails. It just occurs to me why.
And then Microsoft opened up the content under the explanation "We've determined our customers wanted a more interactive email experience."
Harold, you say "Or in general a dumbing down of formats. Many of the attack vectors are in Weird Features that no one uses, so disable them by default."
I hope you are referring to application providers, not users. How many times does Adobe, Microsoft, etc change a default setting and not tell anyone? For that matter, if they apply to weird features that no one uses, it makes you wonder why they exist in the first place.
I still contend that if you want to make software more secure, hold software makers liable. Want banks to protect your accounts? Liable. Equifax collecting your data and selling it as their own? Make them liable. Microsoft, want to enable "interactive features" by default? Hehehe....
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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