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Michael Wong wrote: Reflection
In C++, now that would be very cool!
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You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Stanford Graduate School of Business professor Nicholas Bloom says requiring employees to be in the office is an outdated work tradition, set up during the Industrial Revolution. That commute though? Brutal.
Sometimes, the cat gets in my way going down the hall.
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One in three security professionals lack effective intelligence to detect and action cyber threats, according to a new survey from threat intelligence platform Anomali. And 2/3s are lying to themselves
+/- a few dozen.
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Judge rules that Google's Ireland headquarters can’t be taxed as if it was based in France. Where do I sign up to get the same deal?
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A rather obvious conclusion.
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You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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In the rest of this talk, I'm going to explain our goals for Go 2; our constraints and limitations; the overall process; the importance of writing about our experiences using Go, especially as they relate to problems we might try to solve; the possible kinds of solutions; how we will deliver Go 2; and how all of you can help. How could he miss the opportunity for a goto there?
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A third of respondents indicated that the cloud adds the greatest network complexity to their organisation. In related news: bears add to forest moisture content
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On the downside, it turns over all your personal data to mega corporations, who then leak it to criminals within two years.
But on the good side, it makes your IT environment more complex and difficult to manage!
WIN WIN!
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Box introduced a new type of developer tool today called Box Elements, pre-packaged application pieces designed to deliver Box functionality with a few lines of code. "Show me the box, what was in the box?!"
I really want to watch that movie again now.
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Is the coherence of the universe an accident or the product of something deeper, perhaps some kind of proto-consciousness that permeates the universe and gives it purpose? See, this is what happens when you legalize marijuana
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NPR wrote: and gives it purpose?
What is wrong with a universe without a purpose?
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What is wrong with a universe with purpose?
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You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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..magical thinking; if it has a purpose, then to whom? 
Yes, 42.
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Not magical. But logical. To itself of course.
Nah, 43.  At least make it prime!
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You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Not magical. But logical. To itself of course.
Going from concious to having a purpose is quite a leap. It may set itself goals, but a goal not a purpose make.
How about desires? Why is it more logical for a universe to have a purpose then simply desires? Most of the universe seems quite content to simply exist without having to report a reason for its existence, let alone a goal.
As for being sentient; how important is it for a bacteria in our gut that our host is sentient? Does it make any difference for said bacteria?
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: As for being sentient; how important is it for a bacteria in our gut that our host is sentient? Does it make any difference for said bacteria?
This is a wonderful question to ask, an arrow shot into the heart of the anthropomorphic fallacy ! ... I'm sincere.
«Differences between Big-Endians, who broke eggs at the larger end, and Little-Endians gave rise to six rebellions: one Emperor lost his life, another his crown. The Lilliputian religion says an egg should be broken on the convenient end, which is now interpreted by the Lilliputians as the smaller end. Big-Endians gained favor in Blefuscu.» J. Swift, 'Gulliver's Travels,' 1726CE
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BillWoodruff wrote: This is a wonderful question to ask, an arrow shot into the heart of the anthropomorphic fallacy ! ... I'm sincere.
Even after translating I'm still struggeling with the meaning - but thanks 
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Going from concious to having a purpose is quite a leap.
That's quite an assumption! Have you done it? How would you know?
Eddy Vluggen wrote: It may set itself goals
So is this you admitting that the Universe is conscious?
Eddy Vluggen wrote: goal not a purpose make
Sure it does. It's purpose would be, at least, to fulfill it's self-set goals.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: Why is it more logical for a universe to have a purpose then simply desires?
Aside from the fact that there's no such thing as a comparative amount of logic because something is either logical or not --- So know you're admitting that it's logical that the universe has a purpose?
Eddy Vluggen wrote: Most of the universe seems quite content to simply exist
How do you know? Have you asked it?
Eddy Vluggen wrote: without having to report a reason for its existence
Who says it has to report a reason? And if it did report it would you understand or even be capable of understanding?
Eddy Vluggen wrote: As for being sentient; how important is it for a bacteria in our gut that our host is sentient?
Seems to be the opposite here. We certainly are sentient, the universe may or may not be. If it is, then it's probably orders of magnitude more intelligent than we are. That doesn't make us bacteria. Being that much more intelligent would likely mean the Universe would recognize us as sentient, albeit of a differing kind and order.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: Does it make any difference for said bacteria?
Certainly.
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You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: That's quite an assumption! Have you done it? How would you know?
No, that's not an assumption. It is a language-based fact that the two things are not the same.
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: So is this you admitting that the Universe is conscious?
No, this is me accepting for a second the assumption that it could be.
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Sure it does. It's purpose would be, at least, to fulfill it's self-set goals.
The purpose of our chickens at home was never set as a goal by the chickens 
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Aside from the fact that there's no such thing as a comparative amount of logic because something is either logical or not --- So know you're admitting that it's logical that the universe has a purpose?
On the contrary; living things do not have a set purpose. Purpose is what we, humans, project onto it.
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: How do you know? Have you asked it?
There are no reports out there stating alternative observations.
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Seems to be the opposite here. We certainly are sentient, the universe may or may not be. If it is, then it's probably orders of magnitude more intelligent than we are. That doesn't make us bacteria. Being that much more intelligent would likely mean the Universe would recognize us as sentient, albeit of a differing kind and order.
So now it is not just aware, but vastly intelligent? Something like a God mayhaps?
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Certainly.
Do your bacteria pray to you?
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: It is a language-based fact
Ah so you're playing semantic games.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: the assumption that it could be.
Nice to be openminded.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: The purpose of our chickens at home was never set as a goal by the chickens
How do you know? Have you asked them?
Eddy Vluggen wrote: On the contrary; living things do not have a set purpose. Purpose is what we, humans, project onto it.
Disagree. Things have a purpose whether we recognize it or not. We humans may assign a new purpose or a different one or even the same one, but things have a purpose independent of humans or other sentient beings. A bit of alien tech may land on Earth and be encountered by you and you may not recognize it as alien and assume it's a rock. Notwithstanding you may use it to build or smash something, it has a purpose independent of you.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: So now it is not just aware, but vastly intelligent?
Why not? As long as we are supposing and assuming... 
Eddy Vluggen wrote: Do your bacteria pray to you?
I doubt it, but maybe they do...
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You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Ah so you're playing semantic games.
Nope, no games. But thanks for the flattery
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: How do you know? Have you asked them?
No need; self-preservation instincts dictate that their set purpose of becoming a great meal would not be among their top-goals.
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Disagree.
You're allowed to.
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Why not? As long as we are supposing and assuming...
Belongs in the same dustbin as the universe (or an electron for that matter) being sentient.
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: I doubt it, but maybe they do...
Maybe you're pregnant. I'd recommend buying a predictor, just to be sure
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: thanks for the flattery
You're welcome. 
Eddy Vluggen wrote: No need; self-preservation instincts
Ah, more assumptions. You're building a house of cards I see.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: You're allowed to.
Don't need your permission. I see you failed to answer the rest. Thanks for agreeing.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: Belongs in the same dustbin
Ah, not so openminded then.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: pregnant
 
Eddy Vluggen wrote: predictor
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You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Ah, more assumptions. You're building a house of cards I see.
Not an assumption, but a fact that you can verify.
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Don't need your permission. I see you failed to answer the rest. Thanks for agreeing.
I was not giving you permission, merely observing that we live in a free state and that you are entitled to your 'opinion'.
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Ah, not so openminded then.
My bullshitmeter is indeed limited. Though I am open-minded and will consider many a possibility, I think that we may safely assume that you are not pregnant. Even without checking it.
..at which point you'll be pointing out that that is just an assumption; you do not have any argument, you're merely trying to wordsmith your way. Let it go
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Conservation laws holding at all scales shouldn't be surprising to someone who knows about their connection to symmetry, unless I'm missing something here.
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It interests me to think that are an infinity of symmetries, and wonder if self-similarity, as in fractals, is a symmetry.
«Differences between Big-Endians, who broke eggs at the larger end, and Little-Endians gave rise to six rebellions: one Emperor lost his life, another his crown. The Lilliputian religion says an egg should be broken on the convenient end, which is now interpreted by the Lilliputians as the smaller end. Big-Endians gained favor in Blefuscu.» J. Swift, 'Gulliver's Travels,' 1726CE
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