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Anyone lived there? Have an offer of a well paid job there, even though I already have one here, I'm tempted to make the move. Was in Stockholm for the last Black Sabbath gig there, loved it to visit, just curious if any CPians have experience of it as a place to live and work.
I'm particularly interested in the English speaking expat experience, obviously. Although I have the very best of intentions vis a vis integrating with the locals, I'm long enough in the tooth to know that's not always how things work out...
Re:winters, I'm Irish, so long winters aren't really an issue for me. TBH I fear the light, my skin is nigh on translucent, so eternal night sounds kinda fun...
One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I don't know.
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Mel Padden wrote: Re:winters, I'm Irish, so long winters aren't really an issue for me. TBH I fear the light, my skin is nigh on translucent, so eternal night sounds kinda fun...
Sounds like you fulfill all the stereotypes - for a vampire. 
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: Sounds like you fulfill all the stereotypes - for a vampire.
Or DevOps.
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Just sayin', as much as I would like to be bronzed and sun-kissed and all that, I tend to turn more of a lividly lobsterish red-pink upon exposure to anything more UV-radiant than an invisible-ink detector. .... It's bad, I can't even watch Baywatch without slapping on the Factor 50.
One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I don't know.
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Mel Padden wrote: I fear the light, my skin is nigh on translucent, so eternal night sounds kinda fun...
You don't sound like Gollum, my precious...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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You shouldn't have any problem getting around using English at least. While the experience of Swedes speaking might not be the most pleasant a majority will be able to communicate at a reasonable level and for most tech companies it's a demand that they can both speak and read.
It's an expensive city when it comes to housing and difficult to find a place to live so you should probably check that out too.
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I live in Stockholm and have done so for almost 18 years, but I'm born and raised in Denmark. It's like most big cities in Europe. Swedes are generally welcoming towards European immigrants, and most people speak really good English. Being Irish, I don't see that you should have any problems.
As for the weather: Yeah, well, what can I say. We do have winter, not necessarily LOTS of snow - even though that happens as well - but it is relatively cold half the year.
Eternal night: For that, you have to go approximately 600 kilometers further north than Stockholm.
Does your company pay your stay, because housing is VERY expensive here???
Lastly: Seeing that I'm working here as a programmer, I'm quite curious to know what you consider a "well paid job"??? 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Quote: eternal night sounds kinda fun...
You get eternal daylight as well.
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Careful, you may begin to identify with whomever ends up being your captors. 
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As other have already mentioned, the housing situation in Sweden is ridiculous in general, and even worse in Stockholm.
Demand relocation help from the company if you take the job, and don't accept anyplace. That said, don't expect anything central.
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As far as English goes the young Swedes and Norwegians speak better English than the English (and only 1 accent/dialect to pick up on).
Booze is expensive - but that doesn't stop the locals being drunk - a lot.
Damn good drivers, not just because they drive volvos, but because they are so used to icy/wet (and outside the cities unpaved) roads they know what they are doing in a car.
Reindeer ... mmmmm. TV: bit weird, but entertaining.
Take a trip north for the endless day / night (wrap up) / aurora.
Sin tack
the any key okay
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I know I am very late to reply to this, but hopefully you'll see it anyway!
I am based in Stockholm, but live far out and just go to the office once a week.
As has already been mentioned Housing is a huge problem in Stockholm. It's near impossible to rent first hand, and hard on a sub-sub-let, and legally tricky too. Buying is an odd auction system.
Basically, you'll need help from your employer before you commit to anything.
Other than that, I really like Sweden. Stockholm is lovely in the summer, with swimming near the city centre, nice food, etc. Alcohol is not that expensive.
The dark in the winter is not hard to get used to. In southern UK in December I went to work around dawn, and it was dark before we finished. That's no different here, there's just less light when you are working. The summer with light until 11pm and from 2am (and it's not dark dark in between) takes more getting used to.
There's a decent Irish bar off Kungsgatan (and other spots) where there's quite a good expat community. As has been said, the locals probably speak better english than you do... Even outside the capital it's rare to have any problems.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
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Will robots take my job
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning
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...just add water. This has been a wet dream of managers for decades now and even with all the buzz around AI now, I have not seen anything that's significantly more intelligent than a potted plant. We could automate at least one side of the counter in Q&A with that, but little more.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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There are a number of areas robots can be used right now such as street cleaning and farming, in fact anything that looks something like one of those automatic lawn mowers/vacuum cleaners.
They can position themselves using satellite or local radio signals, can measure soil quality, moisture, etc and can even harvest the crops, clean, process and package them.
But creativity? Not a chance. In fact automation will provide increased work opportunity in IT.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: In fact automation will provide increased work opportunity in IT.
True; not just on the basis of creativity; there is also insight, understanding, out-of-the-box thinking and general f***ups.
The managers are going to dissapear sooner than the ones repairing the bots
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Look at the amount of IT in cars these days, it is kicking off all over the place.
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Not just cars; humans!
Still awaiting the moment that all of our politicians get an artificial heart with bluetooth. We could have world peace
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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No, it's not that easy. When the revolution is over and all politicians have been made one head shorter, where does the next generation of politicians come from? And why must they quickly take over and make the revolutionaries one head shorter?
Before we can have world peace, we might first try to eliminate breeding grounds for politicians:
- Lawyers
- Managers
- The military (a hard one, they are trained to resist elimination)
As some random Austrian demonstrated, there are some that slip through every net.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: There are a number of areas robots can be used right now such as street cleaning and farming
Actually it can be used in the office...
1. marketing:
AI part: new ideas: no requirement for logic, logistics or limits, any idea will do (even if it's failed before)
Robot part: promise customer will be on time on spec / keep asking dev why the hell it's not done yet.
2. senior management:
AI: find reason to pay one self bonus (usually = tell management to trim work force.)
Robot: gather for meetings, eat expensive danishes, go for lunch, go home for rest of month.
3. general management:
AI: find ways to trim workforce (usually weighted average on salary)
Robot: fire people, annoy remaining staff about deadlines, read newspaper, play solitaire.
Sin tack
the any key okay
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Munchies_Matt wrote: But creativity? Not a chance.
I'm not so sure of that. Pure creativity, as in coming up with something that's never been imagined or done before, sure, maybe. However, a lot of what passes for creativity is nothing more than derivative work, and I've been seeing inroads on having AIs crank that kind of stuff out for a while now. Admittedly, what the AIs are producing is pretty much crap these days, but it'll get better.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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patbob wrote: Admittedly, what the AIs are producing is pretty much crap these days
As Theodore Sturgeon said, 90% of everything is crap. I take that to mean that AI can do 90% of the work. 
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Apologies for yesterday w??k got in the way so here's an easy one
She might (7,3)
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
modified 31-May-17 6:26am.
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pkfox wrote: so here's an easy one
For you to type or us to solve?
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Are you sure about the number of letters in the first word?
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