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Awesome! 
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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So apparently there's a bug[^], dating back to at least 2009 and still present today where a zip created on a mac isn't readable anywhere else if it contains a file larger than 4GB. I'm a bit disgusted if not overly surprised that neither crApple nor Micro$haft care enough to fix an interoperability problem between their OSes; but the fact that 3rd party tools like 7zip for windows can't open the zips either caught me by surprise. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I worked once wiuth a jackass who found an obscure deffinition of CSV format which was incompatible with that poroduced by Excell or Lotus Notes etc. And the prick went and used this format in his code rendering it incmpatible with pretty mucvh everything else in the world.
What a prick.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: obscure deffinition of CSV
You mean there was more to it than just commas?
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Commas CRs and LFs in an unusual combination. It was an old and obscure format, and one that wasnt used. Yet this complete dick insisted on being a prat and using it.
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I get the impression you didn't like this person.
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Some busy body wrote an RFC[^] well after the fact; and AFAIK came up with a definition that has different edge cases than most existing implementations.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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This was before 2005, back in 1999 probably, or 2000. God knows where he found this obscure deffinition, but no one in the dev teams impacted by this twerps decision to use it had the balls to mkake him change his code, or take the ocee off him.
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So you obviously admire his research skills, but what do you really think about the fellow himself? 
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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Oh, didnt I say? He is a complete prat. 
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Sooooo, this clearly states that it's a problem with the Archive utility in Apple messing up the directory in the zip file but you're choosing to blame Microsoft for this as well. Why not throw in Google and Facebook because they haven't jumped in to fix this either?
This space for rent
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The same reason I'm also blaming 7zip. At the end of the day I don't care whose bleeding elephant broke it, I just want the hour I wasted trying to figure it out and the extra half a day I spent using a loaner mac because I couldn't get a working copy of my VM copied to my newly reloaded PC back.
The fact that the zip is extractable on the mac means it's not a fatal error, and any of the other parties involved in reading zip files could have added the middle case in this sample code:
if (ZipFileIsCorrectlyFormatted(theZipFile))
{
ExtactDataFromTheZipFileNormally(theZipFile);
}
else if (CrappleStillCantCreateACorrectlyFormattedZip(theZipFile))
{
ExtractDataFromTheFubaredZipTheSameWayTheMacDoes(theZipFile);
}
else
{
ShowAnErrorMessage();
}
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I've spent a part of the evening reading specifications. The fact that Apples faulty implementation of zip64 is reversible means nothing, since there is no way of knowing that the file has been zipped on a mac.
You really can't blame anyone but Apple, in this case.
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Can I blame oracle?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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That's a given.
This space for rent
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since it was a whOracle VirtualBox VM you actually can. (well sort of, but close enough)
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: whOracle
 
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Thanks for reminding me to go back and upvote that.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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And the CIA?
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Talk to 7Zip; they're more likely to come up with a fix than the big boys.
There's certainly no point in talking to ms; they're too busy coming up with Great New Features (that no-one wants, or that replace effective functions) to do anything about the tens of thousands of bugs in their products.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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It's the year of the chicken
- ms want to be the first put lips on it,
- and for their next trick: they're gonna bring out the lipstick.
(btw it's not year of the rooster - not that they have lips either; but real roosters don't wear lipstick)
Sin tack
the any key okay
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Lopatir wrote: it's not year of the rooster
If it was, then it would be a complete coc<nobr>k-up. :rim-shot:
Software Zen: delete this;
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Dan Neely wrote: dating back to at least 2009
Prior to that the size did not matter, one created on a mac could only be opened on a mac. At least there has been some progress. 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Quote:
[...]
Mac OS X's Archive program doesn't work properly with Zip64, and produces bad archives whenever a file in the archive is over 4 GB. Moreover, it mentions that Apple had been told of the bugs long ago but hadn't fixed them. Seems like they still haven't.
[...]
The magic number in the error file: 4294967296 is telling. That's 2^32 or binary 4 gig. When you get an error with that interesting of a round (for binary) number, some program can't handle files that size or larger.
Dan Neely wrote: overly surprised that neither crApple nor Micro$haft care enough to fix an interoperability problem between their OSes
It's not an interoperability problem, as it seems, but Apple running into an integer overflow. It's just pathetic they haven't fixed that yet.
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