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F-ES Sitecore wrote: Wow, you really have no idea, do you?
I'm British, I do have an idea. I've lived and worked around the world so I'd suggest that you tone the arrogance down a notch or two.
F-ES Sitecore wrote: I'm talking about the makers of TV programs not covering certain topics in their shows for fear of corporations withdrawing advertising.
As opposed to media companies changing or suppressing news items that don't suit their agendas? That's happening every day here in the UK.
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
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Sorry I didn't realise you're not even American but are arguing about how American TV is censored. Didn't realise the extent to which I was wasting my time.
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"Your BBC is (de facto) completely government run"
Up to a point, Lord Copper.
It's interesting that, despite the right wing Tory government apparently "running the BBC", Tories always accuse the BBC of left wing bias and anti-Tory sentiment. Conversely, the left see the BBC as having a bit of a right-wing spin and being pro-establishment. So it's probably about right in its even handedness.
The BBC is run by a board of trustees and has a board of governors. I'm sure the government of the day, whatever hue, would like to control it's output and propaganda, though.
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Well, most of what I watch is dicated by Jack Daniels.
* CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
* GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
* Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.
* I'm a puny punmaker.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Suddenly I realize: UK programs such as "Foyle's War" are for export-only.
Probably because of the uproar the historical inaccuracies would provoke.
If you want the realities of the war...[^]
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I built a computer that we use for web/NAS stuff. The TV connects to it via a home theater receiver. The TV itself is not connected to the internet, but I can still stream Netflix, et al...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Similar, here - I bought a refurbished Dell Optiplex (with installed video card for HDMI) for that purpose. Also - used it yesterday, during snow-storm-that-wasn't to work remotely.
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According to your microwave, you spend so much time in the kitchen getting snacks there is no point in monitoring the tv.
veni bibi saltavi
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Don't believe the microwave! It's been jealous every since I bought the induction cooking surface.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: You turn it on and it goes through a setup. Aside from local date and time, I aborted the rest. In addition, I didn't give it any sort of connection to the internet.
Same here... but without 4K
Not only no internet to the TV (but yes to the laptop connected to it), I didn't even plugged the antenna since we don't see usual TV. Only films or things like that. Public Library on my town is for free and have a good load of DVDs if you don't mind to see them with 6 to 12 months delay...
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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That's not enough. You need to wear your tin foil hat as well! 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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OK - wiseguy - what should I do with the HD Broadcast antenna I already connected to the set?
Too large to be a coaster. Too soft to be a cutting board. Well ?
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Throw it out in the shed. Maybe somebody can use it to phone home?!?!? 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Damn - now everyone knows I have a shed.
They can use google-maps to find me.
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They also know that you have an HD antenna. That makes it even easier! 
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: They also know that you have an HD antenna. That makes it even easier!
Only if they start looking in my windows, again.
It's, as described earlier, too large for a coaster - a flat plastic panel with a wire.
Perhaps I ought wrap it in aluminum foil - to keep the pesky RF from getting in or out of it and interfering with the RF I want. My supply of foil, thanks to CP suggestions, has been running rather low.
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I initially made the mistake of letting my LG TV connect to my LAN when I first got it. Well, not entirely a mistake, I let it go ahead and download the latest firmware. Still not sure what the benefit of that was however; it's not like they publish any sort of "what's new" document.
After that I had no use for the internet connectivity. Damned if the TV will let you disconnect or clear any existing setting once it knows your wireless password however. And if you try to redirect it to something that doesn't exist, it'll fail to do the connection (obviously), and then cancelling will make it revert to the settings it already knows about.
The path of least resistance for me was to temporarily change my wireless password in the router, tell the TV to use that, then change the password back (otherwise I have countless devices I'd have to change).
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Ya know - all things considered.
If you agree to connect the TV to the internet they should give you the TV for free.
Make their profits by selling your information.
Now everyone would be happy.
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I suppose at least they'd be honest about it.
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No use for "smarts" in a TV; better to have a separate
box for that.
We also plan to discontinue cable TV and view only discs and streaming services.
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We did that a couple of years ago (sans DVD's actually). No way we'll go back!
Only one pay service, HuluPlus, has been picked up.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: So - when those attempting to reach out to watch what I do in front of the TV - they'll have no connection.
No connection needed to spy on you through your tv.
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Enlighten us as to how so!
Cell phone towers? A conspiracy!
Fortunately, I already sprayed the TV and the homunculus is dead (deep fried, actually).
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Enlighten us as to how so!
A technique that has been around since the 1940's. In the military it is called compromising emanations. To the every day it's called Van Eck phreaking, so named after the guy who first demonstrated it publicly by remotely reconstructing an image from nothing but the EM radiation given off a TV set. No internet connection needed, just someone with a little knowledge of electronics. From there your actions in front of your TV can be deduced by the amount of the EM field you are blocking and the way it is being blocked. Unless you have surgical pins or screws or some such in you, because then you're pretty screwed as they act as an amplifier.
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And this information will be picked up by whom? Where? Like the compromise of voting ballots - what happens to the old data when the next person votes? Where is the receiver for this signal . . . the induction cooker I just got?
I'd be more concerned with laser-Doppler being used to eavesdrop on conversations from window vibrations. Who's running all of these? But I'm not concerned.
If I were specifically targeted - then game is over for me. If not - this is no telephone conversation already streaming - it's a latent image of questionable persistence and even more questionable value.
The sun will die out some day - I'm not worried about that, either (yet).
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