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Including Windows from a VM running under Linux?
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Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz< wrote: Including Windows from a VM running under Linux?
If you mean RC releases of Windows OS, then yes, unless required, I always run RC software on a VM.
Given your hypothetical situation, I don't see why should the host OS necessarily be Linux. I use another OS than Windows only when required.
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Why stop there? Everything I run these days is inside a VM. My host machine has nothing but motherboard drivers and the like.
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dandy72 wrote: Why stop there? Everything I run these days is inside a VM. My host machine has nothing but motherboard drivers and the like.
Visual studio is a large and and complex piece of software. From experience, usually when something goes wrong with the unstable version of VS, it won't just go down but will take the other (stable) versions of VS down with it. If your development is mainly VS based (like mine), it leads to a completely stuffed-up development environment and a lot of frustration, followed by a clean wipe and install of the OS and the rest of the software.
If you install and run the RC version of something crazy big like visual studio on your main development machine, you hopefully know the risks that accompany it. It's all joy and fun when it works, but when it doesn't, it leads to threads like this and someone will eventually come along to say "told ya so".
modified 1-Feb-17 22:39pm.
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I'm not sure if you understood what I meant. I haven't simply switched to running everything inside a single VM - I run everything in separate VMs. I have one for VS2015 (my daily driver), another for 2008 (for projects that for one reason or another, can't be upgraded), another for my domain controller, another for WSUS (to update all the VMs), etc. And obviously, any RC will have its own VM.
When something goes down hard, the damage is limited to that VM only.
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Sorry, I thought you were being sarcastic.
While your approach offers great reliability and peace of mind, it does require a lot of discipline and therefore extremely unsuitable for me. 
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: Sorry, I thought you were being sarcastic.
I'm sarcastic by nature, but this was definitely not one of those instances. I seriously don't have anything installed on the host OS other than Windows Server, Hyper-V, motherboard drivers, and updates for all of those. As such, I never bother backing up the host - it's just as quick to reinstall. Backing up the VMs is trivial, and snapshots, as you know, are extremely useful.
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: While your approach offers great reliability and peace of mind, it does require a lot of discipline and therefore extremely unsuitable for me
Well, I can't help you there. But I've been using practically nothing but VMs here at home since Hyper-V became standard in Server 2008...and once I understood the flexibility, portability and convenience, there was no going back.
Of course now I want my next machine to have 128GB of RAM instead of my current 64...
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Microsoft Visual Studio Professional 2017 RC
Version 15.0.26127.3 D15SVC
Microsoft .NET Framework
Version 4.6.01586
Installed Version: Professional Working okay for me ... so far.
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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They must have transferred a couple of developers over from the MS Office team.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Evil... but good one 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I don't jump on updates, not even major versions. When pondering to update I ask myself three questions:
1) Does it fix a bug / security hole that renders the software unusable?
2) Does it add a functionality I desperateley need / I've been longing for it for years?
3) How much valuable is the stuff that may be ruined by a failed update?
CALL APOGEE, SAY AARDWOLF
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
"Go ahead, make my day"
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Downloaded Speech SDK 5.1 and installed. From Tool selected Speech did not work
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umm...
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Please read the instructions at the top of this page. I would suggest you spend a little time actually working on the problem yourself and if that fails go to the correct forum: Msdn forums - Windows Desktop SDK[^]. You will need to provide a lot more information than given by you here.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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If you're just complaining, you're in the right place.
If you're asking for a solution, look to the left of the window, and select a forum where there might be a solution for you.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Developer's life in Haiku form
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Member 12978395 wrote: From Tool selected Speech did not work
As with your post. 
Marc
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Log.wtf - Android Documentation[^]
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Brain Fart - I thought the title read Arnold's got it right and the first thing I thought of was Arnold Ziffel - Wikipedia
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!
modified 2-Feb-17 10:59am.
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Mike Hankey wrote: Arnold's got it tight
You sick, sick man!
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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New keyboard...bad eyesight!
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!
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Hats off to whoever wrote that method as"wtf" is about the only meaningful name in the whole class - "d()", "e()", "i()", "v()", "w()" - seriously???
Was Android written in the 1970's? Are they having some kind of disk space famine? Are all their keyboards broken? Have the code fairies gone on strike?
Seriously, how could anyone be expected to work with names like that? Does nobody bother to code review their efforts?
It's a miracle that Android is only as bad as it is.
Slogans aren't solutions.
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Dune may finally get a good adaptation from Denis Villeneuve - The Verge[^]
I haven't really liked the Dune films I have seen. But this one sounds like it could be excellent.
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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I read the book - twice - and the old film did not do it justice. I hope this version is better!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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The mini-series for Dune had it's moments, but was ultimately a let-down. However, they did a pretty good job with Children of Dune.
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