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I see a lot of situations where a newly posted question is downvoted immediately. Sometimes the reason is obvious, sometimes not. But very seldom any message is posted explaining why the question is downvoted.
So what every now and then happens is that a moment later the OP adds more details to the question and it becomes quite good one, but the downvoter is not likely to return and re-vote...
I see two downsides on this:
- In a situation where OP really tries to cooperate, he gets 'rejected' and probably confused
- When the question is enhanced afterwards, the downvote gives wrong signals to later readers.
I understand that the downvotes are good and necessary to distinguish poor questions but the outcome is probably not what's expected in the long run...
Perhaps a time delay? Voting begins after 30 minutes or after first comment???
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Mika Wendelius wrote: the downvote gives wrong signals to later readers.
I rarely notice downvotes since they don't mean anything anyway. However, sometimes I see one downvoted that I think does not deserve it and then I upvote it.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: However, sometimes I see one downvoted that I think does not deserve it and then I upvote it.
I try to do the same if the question good.
Regulars at CP understand the voting system and how reliable the votes are but I'm mainly thinking of people surfing, looking for an answer to a problem. A downvoted question may drive them away even if it's good and has good answers...
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Mika Wendelius wrote: A downvoted question may drive them away even if it's good and has good answers
It might. For me, when I google or search I look at the upvotes on answers, not downvotes on questions. But I am unique. 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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"Surfing"?
That's a ridiculous notion; someone looking for an answer getting a codeproject hit and not being a member would have to sign up to become a member in order to vote.
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RedDk wrote: "Surfing"? That's a ridiculous notion
I probably picked a wrong term, most likely browsing would be better.
RedDk wrote: someone looking for an answer getting a codeproject hit and not being a member would have to sign up to become a member in order to vote.
That's very true but reading doesn't require membership. My point is that, regardless of being a member or not, low votes on good questions may unnecessarily drive both questioners and readers somewhere else.
I admit that poor questions should be marked but the question is, should a question in Q&A be given some time to improve before being down-voted.
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Interesting ...
I DO ignore low ratings ... but the most ignorable trait of most posts that are low caliber is the typical poorly worded or illiterate think-speak which is going to get a zero vote from me everytime without me looking for me feet.
I see the main problem in QA as being the engagement of an illiterate post in any way shape or form, comment or otherwise (NEVER an answer).
Hence my "Remove this post" penchant that only the hamsters know about!
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There's an overarching issue here.
If we have poor questions then people can't be bothered to hang around and answer them. The better the question, the easier the poster has made it to answer, the more likely it will be answered.
Instead of tweaking voting, I'd prefer to focus on getting the questions framed correctly in the first place. To this end it may even make sense that if a high rep member downvotes a question (and maybe they are the only ones that *can* downvote) then the question goes offline, the poster is notified, and standard tips on improving the question are included. The poster either responds and fixes, or ignores it and the question remains out of harm's way.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Makes more sense than the suggestion 
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Chris Maunder wrote: The poster either responds and fixes, or ignores it and the question remains out of harm's way.
If he reacts and improves... a wipe of the downvotes could be an option (discounted reputation wipe or not is another question)
I would say:
User gets 3 downvotes and loses X points, the question goes offline
He improves the question and republish
The counter of downvotes get reset
The lost reputation remain lost
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Before closing them, set up a mechanism to give them the impression they can still post - but keep their posts just hanging (like a one-moment please popup that never goes away). Or some more clever items - possibly in a small rotation.
After a few hours, the account, so marked, can get the standardized treatment for spammers.
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Depends on the spammer. They are way, WAY more motivated than years past, and also way lazier than in years past. It depends.
Some specifically post quickly and ditch an account. Some post once and ditch an account. Most post and never seem to bother to check their posts. "Teaching them a lesson" never works.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Hi guys,
At the end of November last year, I change my site to use HTTPs- [Automate The Planet] Since then the articles are not syndicated. Can you suggest what I can do to fix the problem?
I changed the settings in my account to point to the new URL.
I think it is not related to the RSS because my newsletter integration relies on it too and it is working perfectly.
Thank you!
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Hi,
Lately, I receive an ssl error message on a regular basis when browsing the site.
Do you know what is the problem ?
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
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What browser and version are you using? What OS and Version?
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."
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W7 and FF 44
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
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Any chance you could update to the latest version of FireFox and give it a test? On v47 and v50 I'm not seeing this issue
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Can't update today, but trying soon and will let you know.
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
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I was using ff 4.2 no problem.
Auto update to 4.5, no problem.
Another auto update to 5.0, still no problem
Please try updating your browser as it may have been an issue with the version you are using.
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."
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Thank you for checking.
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
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These need a tooltip or something; I shouldn't need to view the file name to figure out what the status of something I reported is...
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Good call. For the moment, the icons are listed at the bottom of the forum.
(Mmm - maybe they should be listed at the top?)
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Might help. Could hardly work less well than the ones at the bottom that I never noticed....
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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The icons are mostly self-descriptive, except Fixed. That one looks like someone put in a temporary hack-fix (like a hardcoded constant + inline SQL + commented out code). And the real fix is coming up 
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Fixed was the only icon I was able to guess correctly. "Added to TODO" doesn't look like anything IMO, and I'd've guessed answered was "asked for clarification".
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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