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Same here, but I stopped using them because I got sick of all the requests for personal information, the nagging demands that I read the twice-weekly "policy updates", the incessant insistence that I downgrade to a browser I don't like, etc.
If I want to talk to a buddy, I'll talk to a buddy. From a search engine, I only want search results.
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Try using it without having already giving them ownership of your life (e.g. without logging in to google+, youtube, etc).
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Has anyone noticed in the last few years that it has become utter crap?
No, on the contrary. I find that google is incredibly good. 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I find it very sensitive to phrasing.
And as I said it only seems ot pay attention to the first few words, put in 6 and the last three are ignored IMO.
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Not sure about past few years, but lately the way it searches has definitely changed.
I have noticed basically two things.
1. Previously it was matching all words to find a good match, so if you type required words in random order, it used to find links that may be a hit. NOW, it seem to matching with sentence and also applying some kind AI to infer what you are trying to search for.
2. Second, through my previous searches, it tries to find related link for this search.
The first point is something I am not liking. As previously, I just have to type technical words for which I am facing problem and it gets all CP/SO links that contains those words. Now due to it's intelligence applied, I have to make sure the search phrase I type makes some sense, else it doesn't find good links.
That's my opinion though ! 
Thanks,
Milind
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MT_ wrote: As previously, I just have to type technical words for which I am facing problem and it gets all CP/SO links that contains those words. Now due to it's intelligence applied, I have to make sure the search phrase I type makes some sense, else it doesn't find good links.
Yep, exactly that. It no longer searches on a load of technical words they have to be in a phrase google can understand, and get that wrong, and its useless.
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What are you going to use instead?
I haven't noticed any difference. What exactly does it ignore? I did notice that it favors certain sites (like SO) and fails to block obnoxious scum sites (you know the type, the ones who hijack search results with fake hits) but other than that it beats the competition.
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As I said if you put in a load of words, only the first few are used in the search, and phrase a question badly, and the results are useless.
What else to use? DuckDuckGo, its good, and isnt spyware.
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Use verbatim mode. It seems to give the same quality results as early google. There is a Chrome plugin to enable it all the time. Or you can click on 'Tools' -> 'Verbatim', but you can only get there after you search once.
(Couldn't stand their results until I figured that out. Very friggin' annoying to have to search the search results!)
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Useful tip, but given googles spyware functionality I will use DuckDuckGo from now on.
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Another "my post was down-voted post" it was about MQA last week, no problem, bovvered.
I thought one of the reasons for this forum was for discussing what is interesting to the poster and may interest other tech-minded people.
I was excited about this new recording/playback technology, it would appear obviously nobody else was, at least not in the Lounge.
In a way my experience confirms what I already knew, the average person on the street really doesn't care about audio quality and new audio playback technology, this is a very niche product and will I'm quite sure fail similar to long list of possibly superior technologies before it eg. Betamax. etc. 
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1st rule of CP (or any online forum these days) - get a thick skin - not everyone (and on some days, not anyone) is going to like a post - the 'downvote' isnt personal - people either like the content or dont - suck it up, move on
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OK, will do. Thanks for your reply.
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I had a downvoted comment the other day too for no reason at all, just get over it. Some people are dumb, other are trolls, other are malicious, some other just have something against one of us for reasons only they know... There are 12,677,591 members as of now, you can't expect resonable behaviour from everyone (incidentally, that is the main reason the world sucks a lot IMHO).
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den2k88 wrote: you can't expect resonable behaviour from everyno one
FTFY
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Oh I wasn't in any way bothered about the down-vote.
It was the apparent lack of interest in the subject, the reason for todays post was just to confirm my findings regarding that lack of interest.
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Option II: A lot of us here are getting up in years and that's not good for ears.
Even those who didn't blow there ears out with loud music.
Your quest, by the way, could have been deduced by the simple acceptance of 5-10% THD in the noise-makers mindlessly purchased by the modern brook for injection into their auditory canals. On the other hand - considering what's offered in place of music - what's the difference?
In my HS/College days, you were looking toward 0.5% (better cost too much). "Low" efficiency speakers with flat response curves; kind of all the stuff I guess you like.
If you feel like responding to this, please type louder.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: If you feel like responding to this, please type louder.
OK NO PROBLEM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPLY 
I count myself as an oldie too but I can still appreciate well recorded music.
All the latest releases are very compressed and sound like crap I agree, not just the latest pop either, the problem is most listeners think loud=sounds good, so all stuff is released mastered at the loudest possible level without distortion occurring.
That's the main reason MQA is interesting to me, I'm hoping the consumer will get less compressed better mastering quality, of course if MQA does go mainstream then it will be recorded loud too, so in a way I hope it remains unpopular.
I'm mainly a headphone user but the same applies.
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I didn't see your post, but my guess is someone woke up on the wrong side of bed, and saw your post as advertising. Happens every now and then.
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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I guess so, I didn't post any links though, the post was just attempting to start a discussion. I'm going with the wrong side of the bed theory then.
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55378008 wrote: the average person on the street really doesn't care about audio quality
I would agree with that. It's too bad you don't work with a former colleague of mine. He was very much into sound quality. You two could probably talk all day long about it.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Please send me his email address.
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If you change your screen name to something non-numeric, people might not get the idea that you're yet another bloody newbie who's posting technical questions in the Lounge.
It's a bit of a knee-jerk thing, because we get people like that in here all the time.
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But I am a number not a name.
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