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Did you mean "an ELA", Sir?
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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No, I wasn't swearing! 
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...with thomeone around here.
Thunder. Lots of thunder. Wall to wall thunder.
Rain. Hail. Hailstones as big as golf balls.
And lightning. Lots and lots of lightning.
Enough lightning to send a DeLorean to the Restaurant at the end of the Universe.
What I want to know is what the devil is a Norse god doing down in a Greek speaking country anyway. Should be Poseidon or someone, and I always sacrifice a generous libation to him every sailing season. No trouble there.
Never mind, when the power goes off (it usually does) I'll take the day off. 
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It is starting 500 km east too...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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It's our first proper rain of the year, but when it comes down this hard. it tends not to do much good for the dams.
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Chris C-B wrote: when it comes down this hard. it tends not to do much good for the dams.
I guess that, on the other hand, the damns are quite strong.
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Perhaps one more source of aid to put out the fires.
(It's the season for the prayer-for-rain-and-dew, is it not?)
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Maybe Zeus discovered an animale he didn't mate with before...
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Not a chance. He's been hanging around for the best part of ten thousand years. There can't possibly be anything/one left that he's fancied and not had.
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Well, he may have been rejected and he's throwing a tantrum! He's certainly not known for its tame character 
BTW, if it is really Thor instead of Zeus caould you please send him up here? This morning is so cold that I suspect the Frost Giants are invading from Jotunheim.
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Siri?
Sin tack ear lol
Pressing the "Any" key may be continuate
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Zeus wouldn't even think of going there, even at his randiest, Siri being the offspring of Hades - which would make it incest anyway. Mind you, thinking about it, that might not necessarily put Zeus off.
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Get a UPS and you can carry on!
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Nah - if they break on the way to Wales, what chance do I stand out here?
Actually, I always work from a laptop - actually more of a luggable with a 19" screen, 2 x 1Tb HS Hybrids, i7, 16GB RAM and two 24" screens - (= built in UPS), and I have a 2KVa genset ready to fire up. We get lots of power cuts around here!
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Well the UK (well my part of Bristol at least) is sunny, very sunny. It looks like we will be in line for a down pour shortley. 
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Chris C-B wrote: Should be Poseidon or someone,
Isn't lightning the province of Zeus?
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Yeah, well, the thunderbolt is his weapon of choice, but they are very specifically targeted. This lot appeared extremely random. 'Course, he could have been saving up a bunch of folks who insisted their wives remained chaste, just so he could zap them all in one go. Poseidon now, he was much more of generalist, raising terrible storms all over the Med, just to get one ship. It would have suited his over-enthusiastic style much better.
Anyway, I still reckon it was Thor throwing a temper tantrum, just his style.
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Over 75% of the respondents of this week poll are on the positive side of the coding-is-fun fence...
I would like to know how many of them actually code for living...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I can't understand why anyone would want to sit in front of a monitor for 8+ hours a day if they didn't enjoy it!
If you don't enjoy what you are doing, then how can you remain motivated to do a good job every day for years to come? And for me, I don't like to do a job any less perfect than I can. Doing half the job because I'm bored with it? That just means I'm going to be back to fix the mess I made at some point in teh future, when I'm even less motivated to do it properly...
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From the flow of those half-educated 'developers' (QA) I conclude, that some do it for the money in the first place...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Most of 'em are sitting in front of a monitor for 8+ minutes a day: google your homework or job, fail to find the absolute solution, post on CP and SO. Walk away and play with Farcebook on your phone until we solve it for them. 
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The question wasn't "is it enjoyable?" - it was "is it fun?" which is why I answered in the negative.
I think to qualify as fun something has to be a thing that you'd do purely for the pleasure of doing it. As much as I sometimes enjoy writing code, I can't really imagine a situation where I'd ever choose to write code purely for the sake of doing it.
If it's my day off and the options are:
1) A walk in the park.
2) A trip to the cinema.
3) A "quick" pint.
4) A visit to the museum or art gallery.
5) Playing a game.
6) An afternoon in the sack.
7) Writing poetry or making music.
8) Watching sport.
9) Listening to music.
10) Cooking.
11) Watching TV.
12) Reading a book.
13) Writing some code that I don't need to write.
One of those is definitely coming in at unlucky 13 and is not going to happen - that would still be true on a much longer list of possibilities.
That doesn't mean that I'm unhappy with what I do for a living, it just means that I wouldn't ever confuse it with a hobby.
Slogans aren't solutions.
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The question can be seen 2 fold (because of the subquestion or whatever it is)
"Do you consider coding "fun"?" --> is coding in general
"Are we a happy bunch at work?" --> is coding at work, and that will be heavily influenced by the current work situation
That being said.
Not everyone gets to do what they originally wanted, but live forces them into different careers.
For me programming was a second choice, originally I was going to go into the military, but 1 accident and 2 hernia's later means I'd never pass the physical tests.
So programming it became.
I do enjoy coding but it wasn't a first choice.
And many other jobs are also problematic due to the hernia's so...
Tom
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OriginalGriff wrote: if they didn't enjoy it!
For some of us, it's because we are very good at it and couldn't get a job doing anything else that would pay the bills as well. My chances at playing in the NBA are rapidly declining so I stick with this. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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It's like any vocation: when it's challenging, it's fun -- notwithstanding the kind of challenging that's a result of other people's c0ck-ups.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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