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Microsoft slipped out of the stage long ago. Apple & Google have been enjoying the limelight & glory for so long now.
I'd always love to see equal competition. To have an equal competition, other parties need some entry first. Microsoft has really slipped into this "other parties" category. The whole product trend buzz that you see now, right from Audrino-IoTs, iphones , Macs, Android, Apps, Chrome to Node.js, AWS. MS looked totally irrelevant with their counterparts. Almost all of their products were thrown out of competition. ie From Windows Phone, Windows Desktops, Internet Explorer, & even Azure (Few years ago). Even the tiny little MSN messenger was not spared. It was like a genocide.
MS entered most arena as an underdog and many cases died as an underdog. Remember Zune? there's many more to quote. They failed to make the buzz. We could blame it to the big fat leaderships of Balmer & partners like Stephen Elop. They never understood what user & market wanted and seemed to follow their bureaucratic legacy. They lost it all ultimately.
Mark_Wallace wrote: Their whole strategy seems to be built around stealing users from other markets
Now all of a sudden nobody can build a new eco-system from scratch and expect the user to jump to. They can't also go back to their products that never clicked. In fact, They did try to do something on their own like the Windows Phone. Nothing worked out.
So now, I feel they are trying to work together with other platforms than to work all alone & establish something only to fail again. Working well with current platforms of other market leaders guarantee their survival & relevance for now. Once they managed to float around , may be they'll start pushing for more individualistic products & make genuine user base.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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But they Didn't fail with the desktop and laptop! They ruled the frugging world!
But now they're starting to lose even that market, because they're too busy tilting at windmills.
E.g. apple is making gains in the desktop/laptop general-use market, because ms is too busy trying to steal graphic designers from apple (which not only ain't gonna happen, but is a comparatively trivial market).
The only aspect of themselves that ms has shown, over the past few years, is that they want to be *Cool!*, so they've been chasing ridiculous ideas, particularly in UI design, since vista.
But the 450,000,000,000 secretaries and office workers of the world* don't give a flying frug about the OS UI! They just want to open their docs, spreadsheets, and e-mails -- and then use them with something approaching the efficiency that ms made unachievable in 2007.
"Cool" doesn't get the work done.
"Cool" doesn't get the bills paid.
"Cool" is not for the working environment.
* If you look at all the hours they claim, you'll see that there must be at least that many
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: But they Didn't fail with the desktop and laptop! They ruled the frugging world!
Well this ended right after Windows 7. Please check about the struggle they've been going through trying to do one significant release after Win7. Windows 8, Windows 8.1 & even Win10 are put in the "Not-so-successful" bucket. Windows 8 in "Failed" bucket. I think Win10 has got some potential to shine. May be. And as a whole, the PC biz is nose diving for the last 3-4 years. It's not only a problem for MS but also for Intel. Yes , Macs have exploited this erosion in PC sales. The sales charts clearly tells us there's a stark decline in PCs & a gradual, steady increase in Macs.
(Intel might enjoy some success with their core ix processors in Macs, don't know how long this goes)
Did you notice one subtle matter here? It's not actually a problem just with the OS. It's the device as a whole now. I feel the days are gone we look for new OS on the same machine.
Most home consumers don't care what OS is inside as long as they look attractive and intuitive.
Just an UI theme updates & some "cool" tools added is good enough to make them believe their OS is updated. I guess MS might soon give up the concept of charging money for OS upgrades forever.
Making good OS is needed but putting them on right devices, in a neat way looks more important now. Apple capitalized it so well with a flashy OS and an attractive hardware.
Now with new surface devices, did you see MS making some gains? Surface Pro 4, has won good reviews & sales reports were also up. I guess the new Surface devices with neat Win10+ OS might make a come back? 
"Cool" it's always said in a context. Depends on the guy who's saying it. For me, Getting jobs done neatly, cost effectively is COOL.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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Why did Kamikaze pilots wear helmets?
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Contains the splat?
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!
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Amazingly enough, there actually is a good answer.[^]
Marc
Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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I think it was so Kamikaze and non Kamikaze's could not be distinguished by the enemy.
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Yes, the pilots and crews of the AA gun crews always admired the pilots' stylish outfits before attacking them.
And today it gets even better. You can exchange some tweets or even take a short look at the pilot's Facebook page after you sent a Patriot for him.
Edit: Perhaps we should set up a page where the pilot can look up the status of the Patriot's delivery.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Mind = blown. Actually an interesting reason.
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Sort of agrees with my first instinct, just in more words.
If you hit turbulence or have to maneuver quickly, a helmet can help keep you conscious should you happen to bump your head. An unconscious pilot is only helping out the enemy...
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As I recall, a few articles on Cold Fusion also passed peer review, but it doesn't seem to be going anywhere today.
(It would be very cool if it did...)
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Quote: According to Shawyer's calculations, the EM Drive could be so efficient that it could power us to Mars in just 70 days.
If it can be imagined it can be done...or something to that effect.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!
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Now if only astronauts could withstand being subjected to solar and cosmic radiation for 140 days!
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Would it help if you moved parallel with the planet you lifted off from -- so that you'd always have your ass covered by it blocking the sun?  A sort of spiral move increasing the radius but keeping the overall trajectory aligned with the planet. And then hijacking the next trajectory when you reach the next planet so that there is always something big covering your ass.
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That seems like it would work for as long as you are within the planet's umbra, but as soon as you are any real distance from the planet you'd be exposed. The Earth's umbra extends a few hundred thousand miles, but Mars is millions of miles away, not thousands.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Then we need to genetically engineer ourselves to be resistant to radiation.
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Yes, and the only way to do that is to stop vaccinating our children. 
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Or build the proper shielding...
Seems like we could reflectively shield it a bit. Maybe that stuff they put in the window of a mircrowave oven 
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Or engineer a pseudo-human to take the trip and start a colony... Perhaps that's what the artificial intelligence projects are all about. Couple an AI computer to a robotic, self driving device, shoot it off to Mars. Viola! Martians. 
Mark
Just another cog in the wheel
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The radiation will take care of the genetic engineering
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If we can survive pollution, pesticides, herbicides and such like a little radiation don't seem like much.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!
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Maybe we should have the ships piloted by cockroaches!
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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They run our country why not try ships?
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!
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It probably creates tears in the space-time continuum and we'll be restricted to speeds below Warp 6. 
Marc
Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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