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I hope so! 
That's less than cleaners get ... the UK minimum wage is £7.20, and that's only £7.15.
I wouldn't get out of bed for 8€/hour.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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8€ net from income taxes (10.5 € gross) but not for service taxes. My cost of living is "small" thanks to accurate management and parents help (my car is inherited from my granddad or I coulnd't afford one, maintenance is done my my father who's a mechanic or I couldn't afford it).
My low rent is pure luck as it's less than single rooms in deaying buildings amidst lowlife despite being a spacious apartment in the countryside - it's almost completely offset of course by the high cost of commuting.
Of 16k € I earn each year at least 13k go for day-to-day living, excluding new taxes, government surprises, accidents and sudden diseases. Keep in mind that I'm counting 2 people as I live with my not economically independent girlfriend (not married because we wish to have at least a decent ceremony but we have no money for that). I'd probbably spend a bit more but my mother gets lunch tickets at work and gives me a share of them, my trusted grocery store accepts them - it goes for other 500-700 € / year saved.
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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den2k88 wrote: (10.5 € gross)
Time to get a new job, in my opinion.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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In fact I'm preparing my CV. If I can raise the pay to at least 12.5 (consider that earning more than 25€/h gross is extremely hard in Italy and usually it happens at 50+ years) then then I can evaluate to stay - contrary to many other companies in my country this one pays each month regularly, is economically well managed so it won't go bust with a short notice and it's extremely stable financially, plus it's not ionvolved in any political/mafia corruption scheme.
It also doesn't lay off people if not for extreme reasons (espionage, stealing from the company, assaulting other employees) so I know I'll have a solid financial base for the future, even if not particularly rich. Still, 8€/hour is not enough, not anymore.
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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I think I'll move to Italy and keep my current job. I'll live like a King! 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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True enough that there is a common idiomatic expression: "fare l'americano" ["behaving like an American"] means living spending a lot of money (new cars, long exotci vacations, often at restaurants...).
It arrives directly from World Wars when US soldiers on leave and the contingents that remained for dome years after the end of the wars were spending a lot of money while our people were in complete poverty - many people, epsecially in southern regions, hadn't running water in houses until 1970s!
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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den2k88 wrote: hadn't running water in houses until 1970s!
Wow! I spent 2 years in Mexico and was moved by the level of poverty there. It would be great if every American could live abroad for a while. It would help to not be so materialistic.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Italians who live abroad for a while are always jarred when they return. Either they go straight into 3rd world countries or they face great trouble readapting to failing services and ridiculous wages - often unattainable since we have unemployemnt for OVERQUALIFICATION... idiocy.
One thing I enjoy of Italy is the relaxed way of living - I know that London is frenetic for everyone but I find frenetic Turin, which is nothing compared to Rome or Milan which are nothing compared to London so I think I'd be a very sorry axe in more civilizwed countries... in fact I stay in the countryside and work in the city, for the less stressful life.
I'd love moving in places like Texas or Tennessee... there is a lot of space and nature, sparse population with still big central cities and permissive gun regulations - something I miss in Italy and will miss ever more since almost everyone is trying to reduce gun rights in any way despite having a negligible ratio of gun related crimes, and 98,4% of them (real statistic) are executed with illegally imported (or sold by crooked police operators, which is sadly the norm here) weapons.
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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you might want to take a refresher in arithmetic, if you think 26 is odd.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Even I thought of the same thing, but you one me two it.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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He one, you mean?
Four heavens sake, this isn't a competition!
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Oddly enough, the odds are that 26 is the only number like it - which is odd in some ways.
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5.09901951359278452 is pretty similar.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Don't take any sass from them what sez today isn't an odd day.
That's not what you said. you said "It's been an odd day", not "It's an odd day", which means that, as far as I an reckon, it's been an odd day as recently as yesterday.
What in the world is their problem?
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OriginalGriff wrote: It's been an odd day
No it hasn't, its the 26th.
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OriginalGriff wrote: And he looks like he should be in school
In Singapore we have militia/police/army guys walking around the MRT (underground to you poms) stations armed to the teeth, and they look about 15. It is very disconcerting to see 3 children in uniform, cradling sub machine guns walking towards you on the way to work!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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This big thing lit a haven before. (9)
"This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedivere. Explain to me again how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes"
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Leviathan (anagram of lit a haven).
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what was the clue to indicate anagram?
cheers,
Super
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Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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Since there are only CCC experts now, the clues are not necessary anymore. You just _know_ when it is an anagram.
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In that case if CCC is not going to follow the prescribed rules, I better withdraw myself to make an attempt to solve it as I am not an expert
cheers,
Super
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super wrote: what was the clue to indicate anagram?
That, I couldn't tell you.
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Damn, sorry, as I said I was in a rush, and I omitted that bit.
"This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedivere. Explain to me again how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes"
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Well done, you're up tomorrow.
"This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedivere. Explain to me again how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes"
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Maybe 'Massive thing lit a haven development (9)' would have been better 
Or are you Pan?
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