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I would like to get it as cheap as possible , but the way that VAT works if I pay over £2000 I can claim the VAT back . (20%) So I set it at that to see what I can get for my wonga.
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But if you spend that much the money's gone. How much VAT will you save to subsidize what appears to be the most amazing overspending?
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If I spend £1666 I dont get a penny back . If I spend £2000 I get £332 back .Since a lot of good machines are £1200 and upwards I thought I would say £2000 to see what corkers came out of the woodwork.
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Unless you need fancy graphics or something more esoteric, even £1200 sounds excessive.
You can get a pretty decent workstation for 700 to 800 quid, add a decent SSD and call it £900 to £1000; forget the VAT and save yourself 600 to 700 notes.
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Buy 3 at 700 each, call it a private cloud - 3X the fun and can claim.
You say for dev, go desktop:
if you want descent multi mon (multi 4k?)
better CPU/GPU (lappies either cut down C/GPU or they run hotter then a toaster),
less native USB & and lousy multi SSD support.
Or 2 X desktop, 1 X lap as a "cloud"
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Andrew Torrance wrote: No monitor needed
If you don't want a monitor, then I'd eliminate lappies immediately.
Hope that helps!
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Or a lappie for £1999 and a quid for a screwdriver.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I currently have 2 Gigabyte Brix Pros:
Small footprint (mounts on back of monitor using VESA mount
Intel core 7 CPU, Intel Iris Pro graphics
Comes with no HD - I have 2 1TB SSD inside
Wifi, Bluetooth, 4 USB ports, HDMI port, others (check specs)
No memory, I have 16GB in each
Bought mine from NewEgg
Advantages: small footprint; very quiet, unless the CPU is stressed
Cons: only 4 USB ports (2 2.0, 2 3.0) - everything is external (4 TB HD)
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Does it comes with Windows 10? 
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Nope - empty machine, you put whatever you want on it.
What, you don't have .iso files of all windows OSes, Linux, and MS-DOS archived?
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In case you move sometimes, a good laptop (lenovo t460p/s or better) with great specs and a proper docking station and you'll be able to use it wherever you need it.
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"Quiet" is an important word here, especially when paired with "lots of power".
You don't mention the OS you need. I would love a Mac Pro. Sleek, fast, and good looking if geeky furniture. Otherwise grab a box with huge fans (bigger the quieter obviously) and stick to SSD (not all SSDs are created equally) and fast RAM. You'll probably also want to think about ensuring you get a USB-C port (or 4) given you want this for the long run.
Why don't we all get together and go shopping for you?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: Why don't we all get together and go shopping for you?
Since you're buyin' can I come along too? I need a new computer too...
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Sure be at my house by 7:30
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I left it open to see what came out . Shop away man my card number is 555....
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Chris Maunder wrote: You'll probably also want to think about ensuring you get a USB-C port (or 4) given you want this for the long run.
Is anyone selling a quad C port board yet? Looking at what's been showing up on Anandtech's review/previews lately the current default seems to be a pair (or occasionally 4) USB3.1g2 ports but only one in the C form factor; the remainder are still A like all the 2.0/3.0 ports on the back.
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Build your own and get exactly what you want.
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I would choose an actual Intel i7 (better than AMD) with 32 GB RAM, good graphic card and fat SSD. Pay attention to a good motherboard like from Asus.
Think about the design of the PC and things like a ergonomic keyboard with some lighting and fine cable-less mouse.
Water-cooling is a fine idea for a very silent PC and it IMHO matured enough for everyday use.
You lucky one. 
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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If you're going to spend that sort of coin on a development machine, look at motherboards first and ignore anything that doesn't support at least 64GB of RAM. Then max it out, and make the most of that RAM with virtual machines. RAID the living crap out of it for performance (I'm using four 4TB drives in a RAID-10 setup to host my VMs), or go SSD. Or both.
Speaking for myself, among other things, having that much RAM has allowed me to remove any hesitation whenever I was trying to figure out whether I should give some beta/preview release of something I might be interested in a try. Removing the need to choose removes a lot of barriers.
Why 64GB? I started at 16, then quickly came to the realization it wasn't enough for the way I work. Then I went to 32, and ran into the same thing again. Having 64 removes the need to choose which VM to shut down to leave enough RAM for another one I might need to spin up. There are motherboards that will use more than that, but we're no longer talking about consumer hardware and you'll blow your budget.
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I have an Asus ROG Gaming Laptop. It supports up to 128GB RAM (I currently have 24GB), has an Intel i7 Quad-Core (8 logical cores) CPU, and an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M GPU.
It also has a CD/DVD/BD drive, four USB 3.0 ports, an HDMI port, a VGA port, an Ethernet port, an SD/MMC card reader, an Intel Thunderbolt port, and connections for headsets.
The keyboard has a backlight, and the fans are very quiet, even when running full blast. The unit also does not heat up very much, maybe a few degrees.
Newer ones come with WinX, though (although I haven't had any issues with it, third party drivers are the usual cause of issues. I'm looking at you, HP. Having to restart my computer several times to make it connect to the [REDACTED] printer is not a good thing.)
The cost for mine is around $2,500.
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Andrew Torrance wrote: Probably up to £2000
For that price, you can get a really good gaming machine, with monitor, never mind a dev one. 
You won't have any problems whatsoever spending that much, and can get a decent one for half that.
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You don't need to spend that. Dell puts out a fine product, the XPS Series. I have a 4-year-old XPS 8300 that I've built up with 1.5TB of SSD and 16GB of main. Seriously powerful. These aren't that expensive, either.
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I bought a Dell XPS 3 years ago. On sale for about $1,000 U.S. Has i7 8 GB ram, 1 TB Hard drive. I use the machine on site for contract work. You don't want a laptop. The CPUs in them have about 1/2 the power. When my coworkers noticed, they all demanded that their agencies supply them with desktop computers. I have since upgraded the memory to 16 G bytes. Needed that to run VMs. The machine used up about 75% of the memory with VMs running. And ran noticably slower. Also added a 2nd 1 T Byte hard drive. Just to keep code on different drive than OS.
Going to replace the HDD with 525 G Byte SSD that I found on NewEgg for little over $100 U.S.
If I were to replace it today and need it fast, would be hard to beat Dell XPS. I been thinking about a new build. Considering a Skylake i7. But Brodwell i7 or i7 Extream I think would be better suited. Reviews of CPUs for compiling code is hard to come by.
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Sounds like you have, basically, the same thing I have. This 8300 originally came with 8GB and a 1TB drive and it has always been uber reliable and very fast. (i7/2600, I think). I put one of the 512GB SSD units and one 1TB one in there and the machine just plain flies. Also upgraded it to 16GB main so I can run VM's also. I have it backed up to a 2TB Toshiba, a big 24" monitor, etc. Running Win7 Pro and all my development goodies. I doubt I'll upgrade it before I retire unless something just physically breaks - great machine.
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