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OriginalGriff wrote: under performing
Not 100% positive about this one. Their stuff works great. (Never owned one, though).
OriginalGriff wrote: nothing on the original iPhone was new
I think the touchscreen was a revolution back then, wasn't it ?
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Rage wrote: I think the touchscreen was a revolution back then, wasn't it ?
Nope, the original iPhone was launched in 2007, and HP had this phone out a year earlier: HP iPAQ hw6915 - Full phone specifications[^].
Touch screen, handwriting recognition, apps store, games, internet, Windows Mobile OS, and even a "Proper" keyboard as well - which made SMS a load easier! It let you use and edit Excel and Word files as well. (I had one, and the battery life was amazing - around a month!)
I don't think this was the first of the family that HP released, but I couldn't swear to it.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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The first touchscreen phone was out at 1992!!! By IBM - Simon...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Years before the iPhone released, a guy that sat next to me at work had a PocketPC phone -- I had a PocketPC device running PocketPC 2002. Both devices had touch screens. Of course, we did use styluses (styli?) but you could use your finger too as I remember.
Anyways, Microsoft failed at this really early. Then gave up long enough that Apple grabbed the space.
if you google, "pocketPC 2002 phone" you'll see some images for those phones. Years before Apple ever released.
Marketing is key, yes? 
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AIRI, the pocket PC had rounded corners. Has apple sued them?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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OriginalGriff wrote: HP iPAQ hw6915 - Full phone specifications[^]
It took an SD card, too.
No doubt that will be the revolutionary new innovation for the iphone 12.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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And it played MP3's and videos.
It even played Flash ... which is probably also due in iPhone 12!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I was working in 2001 on the design of a phone that contained a touchscreen. It was not a commercial success (high price, poor user design), but it shows that people were designing such phones well before Apple started the iPhone project.
As for "working great", my wife has an iPhone 6 that cost more than twice as much as my Samsung S5 Neo, and doesn't seem much faster. I don't see that the UI is that much better, either; certainly not worth a 100% price premium over another well-known brand.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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OriginalGriff wrote: Never owned an Apple product, never wanted to.
Long ago I thought an Apple ][ would have been nice, but the new Atari 800 also had something. 
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Brainwashed here means someone who locked in his/her own fashion dictated world and can't see nothing out of it, and for that will buy a new phone, just because it is of a certain brand and new!!! Now brainwashed may be not the perfect word, but IDIOT is!!!
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Shut up and take your 5 vote.
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Not too much in it yet. Just some HashAlgorithm extensions (hashing strings and comparing hashes), some IEnumerable<T>; extensions (None [determines if there are no elements], EmptyIfNull [should be self explanatory], and additional implementations of Min and Max that allow passing custom IComparer<T> implementations (or a Comparison<T>), and a class for cross-platform dynamic loading of shared libraries.
The dynamic loading thing is rather interesting, and involves wrapping platform-specific methods to a common interface, and exposing delegates that use one of the implementations depending on the platform (another class that only tells you what platform you are running on, Win32, Mac, or Linux).
Any ideas for extensions/other things?
Currently planned:
* A generic XmlSerializer
* A base implementation of IExtenderProvider
* Some Stream extensions for getting a cryptographic hash
* Some extensions for System.Security.Cryptography.RandomNumberGenerator for getting basic numeric types
* Some similar extensions for the System.Random class
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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I wrote an extension for DataContext to make Linq2SQL thread safe, here.[^]
Still, I get the feeling I'm going down a rabbit hole I shouldn't need to.
Marc
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More power to you, and look forward to the article !
cheers, Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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Trakfone said I need a 4 gen phone as my Matrix 1999 flip phone will no longer work on their network. They sent me one free 4 gen phone to replace my 2nd gen phone.
So I was playing with it while on the John Crapper trying to get it configured, John Macafee took my picture and sent it to me via my email account. Somethin about my touch codes wern't in order or something.
I believe this to be bad form, what department should I complain too?
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How about the TMI department?
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The living in the past department.
Jeremy Falcon
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The what on earth are you talking about department!
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Lots of phone security apps do that -- if you enter an incorrect password, they take a photograph of you.
I think it's called the "pic or it didn't happen" feature.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Look for the sign that says "Psychiatry."
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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Complain to the nurse. Tell her she forgot to bring you your medication this morning.
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I thought that this coffee mug[^] would make the perfect addition to my growing collection but I really want one for work.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
modified 9-Sep-16 15:54pm.
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hm. the redundancy mug?
(Link issue)
EDIT
The link works, but the carrot/hat link doesn't. ha.
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The unfortunate side effect of lack of caffeine post lunch has been fixed.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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This one is better, CSS is awesome[^]. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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