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Everyone thinks that about Apple products until they start using them (I was the same some years back). The key to Apple products is consistency - every device works as designed, something that we've never been able to say about Windows PC's or Android, for example. Because they make the hardware and the software, they're in full control of what their end users get.
I agree though that Steve Jobs was Apple. There's been little exciting stuff coming from them since he stepped down; Tim Cook just doesn't seem like the right guy for the job. Some things have got worse (e.g. the music app in iOS, which IMO is awful to use these days - it didn't use to be bad, and we see a lot more bugs these days than we used to - the attention to detail seems a bit lacking lately).
I'll be sticking with my iPhone 6 for now, there's little in the 7 that makes me want to change.
I came into this game for the action, the excitement. Go anywhere, travel light, get in, get out, wherever there's trouble, a man alone. Now they got the whole country sectioned off, you can't make a move without a form.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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Brent Jenkins wrote: every device works as designed, something that we've never been able to say about Windows PC's or Android,
Exactly.
Apple may not have the best OS or nicest apps (will they ever work out how to write a UI that doesn't lockup due to network or resource requests??) but they take what everyone else has been doing for years and they just...make it work.
I deal with Google's services a lot and frankly the difference between Google and Apple is the difference between an engineer locked in a room with lots of other smart engineers, and that of a designer who sits down and watches how people function. Google wants to be praised for the genius under the hood (which no one can see). Apple just wants to be beautiful, even if it's just skin deep.
I honestly thing that basic psychology needs to be part of Comp Sci courses these days.
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Chris Maunder
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I still have my 4S 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Looks like I'll be keeping my 6 for another year 
I came into this game for the action, the excitement. Go anywhere, travel light, get in, get out, wherever there's trouble, a man alone. Now they got the whole country sectioned off, you can't make a move without a form.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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Chris, you are still an iPhoner? Granted, the Windows Phones have been a bit disappointing, but I assumed you'd be on Android by now 
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Yeah, I have this weird preference to not run an OS that continues to have serious security issues and shows an inability and lack of desire to address these issues in a timely and unified manner.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Android is less secure than an iPhone? I wouldn't think so.
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I would.
And I mean that in an overarching way. Android is fractured, badly. Updates are dependant on the manufacturer and are not timely. Apps are not vetted, so you're managing your own risk when you download apps.
Apple has a vested interest in stopping people from jail-breaking their phones. Did you see how quickly they came out with the 9.3.5 patch that was allowing malware to be installed on iPhones? I was pretty impressed. Whether you believe it's to protect human rights, or whether it's to protect Apple's control of the ecosystem doesn't matter to me: it was fixed quickly and every single phone from the 4S onward could get that patch.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Interesting. I have had an iPhone before, and since then been on multiple WPs. Was considering a switch to Android for my next phone. Thanks for the different perspective.
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The thing that depresses me the most is the death of Windows Mobile.
My dream is to have my PC in my phone. ie. Continuum. I pick up my phone off it's inductive charging pad, head home, sit at my home office desk and the phone connects back to my wireless mouse, keyboard, WiFi and display. I continue working on my 27" monitor using a quad-core processor with 8GB RAM and 128GB storage and it's as fast as a laptop.
Except I don't think it's ever going to really happen.
Apple made a statement yesterday about ditching the headphone jack. They said their design team had courage. I totally agree.
Microsoft has no courage. They are so beholden to legacy that everything is the same as it was. They tweak, they refine, they rework core frameworks. But it's all the same.
In 2007 Apple didn't have a single mobile app or a single iPhone. Now they've sold 1 billion phones and have had 140 billion[^] app downloads.
Microsoft needs to stop worrying about what it used to do and do what it needs to do.
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Chris Maunder
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Good points there. And yeah, the demise of the WP has been the most disappointing thing from Microsoft in recent years. After all that early enthusiasm and promise, the money thrown into Nokia, and then nothing - that is sad.
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Chris Maunder wrote: They said their design team had courage.
The courage to do something that Motorola and a handful of Chinese manufacturers have already done? 
I realize that the iPhone is on a bigger stage than the other jack-less devices that have been released and thus receives much more scrutiny, but courage (in design) is a word I would use when a design team is the first to do something completely unthinkable.
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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With requirements like these who needs connectivity? 
chris said
Note the requirements:
Live streaming uses Apple’s HTTP Live Streaming (HLS) technology. HLS requires an iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with Safari on iOS 7.0 or later, a Mac with Safari 6.0.5 or later on OS X v10.8.5 or later, or a PC with Microsoft Edge on Windows 10. Streaming via Apple TV requires an Apple TV (2nd or 3rd generation) with software 6.2 or later or an Apple TV (4th generation)
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raddevus wrote:
chris Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter said
Note the requirements:
Live streaming uses Apple’s HTTP Live Streaming (HLS) technology. HLS requires an iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with Safari on iOS 7.0 or later, a Mac with Safari 6.0.5 or later on OS X v10.8.5 or later, or a PC with Microsoft Edge on Windows 10. Streaming via Apple TV requires an Apple TV (2nd or 3rd generation) with software 6.2 or later or an Apple TV (4th generation)
FIFY
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So if you're not already an Apple convert, or you don't happen to have Windows 10...you're SOL? Seems to me that's the group they should be try to cater to.
Or are they taking for granted that if you're interested in any Apple product, you already have one anyway?
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Great product. There's a lot of SSH terminal products for the smart phone, I happened to pick that one.
Why did I need it? I was having a problem with re-establishing a RabbitMq queue after rebooting the server, so I fired up the app through my phone, saw the error message, and fixed it.
Yes, I could have logged the error, but this is on a Beaglebone and I don't really want to log anything, particularly messages that will trigger continuously, every second.
Yes, I could have fired up another computer to SSH into the BB, but the phone was easier!
Marc
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Thanks for the report, Marc. Keep on truckin'. 
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Shiny! Good find. Installed.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Apple Events - Keynote September 2016 - Apple[^]
Note the requirements:
Live streaming uses Apple’s HTTP Live Streaming (HLS) technology. HLS requires an iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with Safari on iOS 7.0 or later, a Mac with Safari 6.0.5 or later on OS X v10.8.5 or later, or a PC with Microsoft Edge on Windows 10. Streaming via Apple TV requires an Apple TV (2nd or 3rd generation) with software 6.2 or later or an Apple TV (4th generation)
cheers
Chris Maunder
modified 7-Sep-16 15:04pm.
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So much for interweb streaming standards.
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I can't watch the Apple Keynote[^] on safari on my PC, but I can watch it using Microsoft Edge.
Something seems wrong here...
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Chris Maunder
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Would that be iRony?
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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At this point you may need to accept that even Apple is trying to tell you something.
At least iThink so.
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Quote: Requirements: Live streaming uses Apple’s HTTP Live Streaming (HLS) technology. HLS requires an iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with Safari on iOS 7.0 or later, a Mac with Safari 6.0.5 or later on OS X v10.8.5 or later, or a PC with Microsoft Edge on Windows 10. Streaming via Apple TV requires an Apple TV (2nd or 3rd generation) with software 6.2 or later or an Apple TV (4th generation).
If you do not own one of these you are same as dead, so why watch?!
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Chris Maunder wrote: safari on my PC,
Wait! What?
Why on Earth do you run Safari on your PC? Hasn't Safari for Windows been abandoned for over a year?
Or did you just want to try to be snarky?
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
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