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One got through: Html5 Image Markup[^] - Gone
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
modified 4-Jun-16 10:39am.
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Dear Mr. OG
Again me, again a question from a noob:
Does the reporting System really makes sense? Especially in a case like this?
You reported "Spammer from moderation queue" and all relevant Messages are gone at that time. I assume also other members especially also "protectors" can not see why the subject is a Spammer.
Summary: In a case like this, it needs 9 blind votes until the member disappears... hard to see the logic...
Like usual, swiss english, but I think you can translate/will understand it 
Bruno
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Surprisingly, yes! 
The "moderation queue" here is a special one, only visible to some members. Basically, it's a list of all the messages that the automated spam detector is pretty sure are spam, and should be deleted. But... It's not perfect, so in order to make sure every message has to be confirmed as OK or not OK by a human. If it's spam, it's immediately deleted. But the author isn't. So if it's accidental spam, we can refuse it but not close the account. If it's clearly deliberate, we need to book it and it's author as quick as possible to discourage than from trying again.
To close the member account still takes a number of human reports, so we add a report here to speed that up and reduce the number of "goes" they get. Because the message is immediately deleted we can't post a link to it, so yes, we do have to take such reports on faith to an extent. That's partly why we're careful to mark it as "from the moderation queue" because we know that we're asking others to trust us on this.
I think the idea is that only "trusted" members get to make this decision, but we do need something along these lines to prevent the massive spam floods we had last year. Some of those spam bots were posting faster than four or five of us could delete their cr@p, and even with the system in place we've had times this year when there are several hundred spam messages in queue waiting for us to approve or report.
If you can think of a better way to handle this that doesn't remove the human input I'm pretty sure everybody will be happy to hear it! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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First of all, thank you for your detailed answer.
Quote: If you can think of a better way
No, sorry, I don't have a better solution. But in case "Moderators" can delete all relevant Information, why they should not have also the possibility to remove the member also?
[Edit]
Still the question remains: Why 9 blind reports are necessary. It does not really prove/confirm anything.
Not a big thing, only my minds...
Bruno
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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I assume it's because the Hamsters don't want to give anyone the power to "kill" a member with a headshot.
And I'm pretty glad of that ... the temptation to remove annoying ones might prove irresistible
(And before you get your back up, that doesn't include you, or anyone else on this page! Some of the QA stuff though ... a real life hit could be Chlorine in the gene pool )
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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0x01AA wrote: But in case "Moderators" can delete all relevant Information,
We are not, we are only volunteers and at the very end we are still users.
We can do some thigns, but actually not that much. The only ones being able to do such actions are the CP-Staff
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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The question subject was fine, but the body just took a quick Google translate to reject!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Gone
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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So flag the article as SPAM and move on. Why kick the user off the site?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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There wasn't enough material on that profile to make me certain that the problem is with the post only. 
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Exactly.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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No.
The user's only contribution to the site is a spam article. The user is a spammer. Therefore, the user deserves to be kicked off the site.
I can accept your regular argument that a zero-tolerance policy with abusive comments is often an over-reaction. But a zero-tolerance policy to spam is perfectly reasonable. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote: But a zero-tolerance policy to spam is perfectly reasonable
I disagree. Often people who post spam do not realize what they are doing is wrong. CP allows advertising in your signature and in your profile so it is very reasonable to think that CP allows you to write an article on how to use your software.
And in this particular case, the user has been a member for over 1 year.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Links in your signature is one thing; posting an "article" full of links to your company, where the text is basically just your company's price list, is completely different.
And in the unlikely event that this was a genuine mistake, the user can always contact the hamsters to ask for his account to be reinstated.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote: the user can always contact the hamsters to ask for his account to be reinstated.
That's a good solution. When I join a site and get violently kicked off, my first thought is to email hamsters@site.com.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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