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Super Lloyd wrote: What do you call "the second attempt"?
CP member: Your article is bad and you should feel bad! (I'm rephrasing it nice).
Me: Thanks for your feedback, could you perhaps elaborate on what's wrong with my article? (First attempt.)
CP member: You are dumb and you will never learn and you should feel bad! (Something like that).
Me: You're right, but I can try and it should be very little trouble for you to provide me with some terms and phrases I can Google, so if you would be so kind and stop cussing at me... (Second attempt.)
CP member: SOLID.
Me: Thanks *Googled, read, my knowledge got a boost, I got a promotion, I became lead programmer, my salary almost doubled* 
Super Lloyd wrote: he knew, just didn't felt like explaining. Just pointing out I was wrong!
For some reason that seems to be the default mode on the internet 
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Thanks Sander!
Must have been quite painful... But couldn't help but laugh reading your little story! ^_^
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Super Lloyd wrote: Must have been quite painful
It's really saying more about him than about me or my article
Well, in this case it said a bit about my article as well, as it really WAS very bad 
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You bought this[^] to mind.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Crap, I just deleted an email from a Nigerian prince!
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Well, I am coming from a perspective that sees Homo Saps as a very messy analog-wetware computer grafted on to a feral beast oriented towards dominance/submission, hierarchy, and sexual monopoly ... i.e., a primate ... as well as all the other "good stuff" ... to some extent a prisoner of hormones.
But, that big analog jelly computer ... so big that the size of the skull that evolved to hold it resulted in female human death during childbirth at a very high rate until modern times ... well, that brain is remarkable, and the jewel in its crown is language, and the paradox it holds is a never-ending series of mirrors reflecting mirrors: consciousness.
But, so often, this remarkable container of the virtual illusion of a conscious self, somehow outside nature, immersed in a cosmic illusion of a one-way flow of "time," gets its illusion-generator (the brain) taken over by a virtual dinosaur ... the limbic system, and, while the body does its dance with the hormone de jour, the mind plays catch-up, editing, and re-editing, what we believe is our "personal history."
So, it never surprises me when I see people use the relative anonymity of the internet to exhibit aggression; perhaps it's more surprising how humane a "virtual community" CodeProject is ?
And, it doesn't surprise me when I wake up and regret something I said, or posted on-line, although I try and make amends if possible. Aristotle would have described doing something "against our better judegement" as akrasia, a basic component of the human condition, driven, he states, by desire for pleasure, and anger.
Hey, you know it's very interesting to me that in Buddhism you have the concept of "mudita" as a part of the potential results (brahmaviharas) of the development of consciousness; it means "empathic joy," the ability to feel pleasure and positive emotion in the good feelings, joys, and positive experiences of others. It's interesting to think that I don't know of an equivalent in English, and the culture I come from. Interesting to contrast that with Nietzsche's idea that sentimentality was "schadenfrude without the pangs of conscience."
Well, perhaps Nietzche's words (from "Human, All Too Human are an appropriate close to this dis-jointed ramble by an ersatz litterateur:
Quote: Vagueness of thought and outbursts of sentimentality are as often wedded to the reckless desire to have one's own way by hook or by crook, to make oneself alone of any consequence, as a genuinely helpful, gracious, and kindly spirit is wedded to the impulse towards clearness, and purity of thought and towards emotional moderation and self-restraint
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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Bill, I have to confess I have great trouble to understand your writing!
However some meaning transpire from the overall reading of the document.
Speaking of which there is some sort of English analogy of "mudita" (not a word mind you, more like a sentence)
- being part of the moment
- being part of something great
mmm... that's it! ^^
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Hi, Super Lloyd, I have trouble understanding my writing, also
Yes, of course, just because there isn't a specific English word that has the status of a "meme" that encapsulates what I see in the concept of mudita doesn't mean that reality behind it doesn't exits, and is not recognized in any culture. In English, I would use terms like "empathic joy," or "sympathetic pleasure" to describe it. fyi: a parallel to mudita (in the five brahmaviharas) is karuna, loving-kindness, often expressed as karuna-metta, "virtuous compassion."
to your health in mind, body, and soul, Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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Super Lloyd wrote: There are some people who take pleasure on putting people down.
I don't think it's pleasure. Such people consider it their duty, a chore that must be completed for the betterment of the human race. They don't simply believe that you are mistaken. They know that you are wrong and that error that is allowed to go unchecked does damage to the balance of existence. You must be expunged from the knowledge base; forced out and far away where your insanity can no longer be harmful. Dying is the least you can do to protect the Truth.
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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I'll write this down and find some way to insert this in my upcoming Role-Play campaign.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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It was nicely written indeed!
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Sounds like you have some deep insight into being an a**hole... You coming out of the closet?
I now feel morally obliged to down vote you... thinking that you might be one... O sh*t, I just proved the point you were trying to make.
Now I have to upvote you for being right in some or other way. 
:-P
"Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence."
<< please vote!! >></div>
modified 2-Jun-16 3:10am.
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I think it is a human flaw... it is in everyone. We humans have some flaws which we like and find difficult to let go of. We feel that it is who we are and will be without identify if we were to change it. Some humans are in denial about their flaws. In their view they are perfect and everyone else is wrong. These humans also have tendencies to think that the whole world revolves around them... This view in itself is a human flaw (called self-centeredness).
It should be noted that at no time do I exclude myself from any of these humans I mentioned here. I have flaws, we all do. I have flaws I know about and don't want to change, we all do. I have flaws I'm in denial about, we all do. I sometimes think the world revolves around me, we all do. It is hypocritical to tell someone something is wrong when we do it ourselves... we all are hypocritical at times.
A little food for thought.
"Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence."
<< please vote!! >></div>
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The average age on the Diablo forums is probably 5 and a half years. Chuck Norris recommends better forums/games.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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Asking questions is helpful. I often do that myself, to get people to think.
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Indeed, there are many socially inept beings on many forums. The anonymity of the internet works for them however if they were on the road, driving they might encounter this ^
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No matter how much we believe we can pull ourselves up by use of the crutch of technology and pretend that the invention of civilization somehow imbues us with privilege, the sad truth is that we are a few genes removed from the filth and savagery of four-leggedness. It is nothing more than delusional hubris to believe to the contrary.
...and thanks to you now I have nihilistic thoughts that will plague me the rest of the day.
I need a drink to help me forget.
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Super Lloyd wrote: There are some people who take pleasure on putting people down. Whether they are right or wrong having a conversation with them is pointless... Since all they would say is something along the lines "you are wrong here stupid sh*t" don't expect any useful information.... They are quite... demoralizing...
Sorry to inform you that this is wrong. Try reading or doing some real research before you just post any old thing.
this is a joke but I feel the icon would probably have ruined it
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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I saw that coming... Glad you confirmed it though! haha!!!
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well I've realized from past experience that it is important to say it directly either with the icon or a disclaimer. Otherwise communication may get crossed, even if it's by someone reading it later.
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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My dad used to advise me, "Don't get into a pissing contest with a skunk."
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I completely agree with your assessments on public forums.
Unfortunately, this is a severe, negative outgrowth of the increasing impersonal societies that mobile\online worlds generate.
Such worlds allow people to become anonymous in many respects, which in turn allows for less restraints on impulse control, which is what people like you are seeing in such areas as public forums.
In earlier times, there was quite a bit of monitoring of such transactions but as the technology world has been evolving, this too has slowed to a great extent allowing for meaner, nastier responses to clutter public discussions that most often begin in a civil manner.
Technologies are supposed to be merely tools to make certain functions in life easier to create and build with (ie: word processing). However, as the younger generations increasingly make it an adjunct to their daily lives where such technologies play an increasing role in supporting basic and critical thinking processes, the results are quite worrisome as you see in public forums.
Unfortunately, the idea of going back to the basics in how technologies are used does not seem to be in the cards for most people so the public commons will continue to degrade proportionately until we lose it altogether...
Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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I would counter argue that evolutionary forces might yet reshape technology digital medias to become more considerate...
The idea here, I think, is if any trick can make online forum more civil, it will certainly take all the online communities by storm! 
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@Superr Lloyd
You could be right in your assessment and that we are still in a period where new mores may be developing such as online courtesy enforced by changing sociologies.
However, the data right now is/are not pointing to such a development because way too many people are using technologies as crutches to their daily lives instead of the tools that they are actually good for. The result is an increasing laziness on the part of many while taking advantage of the anonymity that such technologies bring with them.
Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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