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Mark_Wallace wrote: forced updates
Forced updates mean that my upgrade from Win7 will be Linux.
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That is a spurious news source. Here is a more reputable one (relatively speaking).
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Yes, but no way will I dare drink unpasteurized milk! I will leave to the bright politicians who legalized raw milk. And I wish them the best of luck. 
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Why would anyone want to legalize it? What's the driving reason behind it, do you know?
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Quote: What's the driving reason behind it
Who knows? Probably a bunch of hippies?
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Cornelius Henning wrote: Probably a bunch of hippies?
Actually, having lived in WV, I assure you that those insisting on this were about as unlike hippies as one could imagine.
WV is primarily composed of good solid conservative bigots - like you'd find in most of the low population states (and Texass). The reason the northern coastal states have large population densities is people trying to get away from the inbred masses and they ran out of running room.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Quote: good solid conservative bigots
Different values from hippies, but same IQ range.
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It allows farmers to sell direct to customers at the barn door as it were rather than to milk packagers/processors and thus get the full value. The truth is, of course, that it's been going on legally or not so it's just one less hassle for the authorities who policed it.
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Its been said that it causes less allergies and more of the actual nutritional value stays in. Buying from a reputable farmer with a healthy herd would probably not be dangerous to your health.
I grew up on a farm and only had raw milk as a child - never got sick from it.
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Remember, this is West Virgina, not to be confused with Virginia.
Consider this quote (extracted from the text) by one of their brilliant lawmakers:
"There definitely shouldn’t be a law against allowing people to do what they want within the framework of the rule of law . . .”
That should explain everything.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Quote: That should explain everything
That is just dumb! Even for a politician. Even if he is from the mountains in the West!
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W∴ Balboos wrote: "There definitely shouldn’t be a law against allowing people to do what they want within the framework of the rule of law . . .”
Wow.
That's the English-language equivalent of javascript code.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I used to drink raw milk, when I was a child...but if someone not used to it, it is very heavy (full of fat), so I can imagine that...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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As a child in the early 1960s I lived in a hostel where we were served raw milk. In the rural parts where we were, pasteurization was still not common. Yes, I survived, but we seemed to develop digestive tract infections more commonly than kids today. Why run the risk of some serious tummy ailments?
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I didn't say that I would do it today or to my kids, but than, that was the only milk we had (lived in a farm outside of everything)...I can't remember people got ill or died of it, but I was only a kid...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Yes, I believe we are in agreement. 
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Cornelius Henning wrote: 1960s
That's the key difference. Farmers were not pumping their cows full of steroids and hormones like they do today.
However, even today, there are lot of small farms around where I live that sell raw milk. It's no big deal. But these farmers don't shoot their cows up. 
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I'm afraid you are going off-topic. The issue is whether you should pasteurize milk to get rid of pathogens, like undesirable bacteria. Hormones and antibiotics are a separate issue that has nothing to do with pasteurization.
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Cornelius Henning wrote: I'm afraid you are going off-topic.
Not at all.
Quote: to expose (a food, as milk, cheese, yogurt, beer, or wine) to an elevated temperature for a period of time sufficient to destroy certain microorganisms, as those that can produce disease or cause spoilage or undesirable fermentation of food, without radically altering taste or quality.
Hormones and steroids add to those "certain microorganisms, that can produce disease."
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Let's agree to differ: You can drink your milk raw, and I will only take pasteurized milk, and we both will be happy.
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I don't think they do it at all in Mexico. I remember the milk tasting very weird and they could leave it unrefrigerated for a long time.
Yes, I know they have stomach problems but that is more from the water. 
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Haha, grew up on a dairy farm for a few year, me and the cats got warm raw milk every morning. The old man used to hand milk and the cats would line up for a shot direct from the teat, funniest cat thing you have ever seen, he was not very accurate, on purpose!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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