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Hypothesis...
- Farmers kill way more chickens than the market normally consumes
- Low prices on chicken; that becomes the preferred food
- Fewer chickens; Fewer eggs
- Price of eggs goes up 2x and 3x
Just exactly what IS going on with that market ?
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Nice hypothesis, but wrong.
The best layers are not necessarily the best meat - too much of their energy goes into producing eggs. I am certain that farmers have optimized one line for egg-laying, another line for chicken meat. They do it with cows (meat vs. milk), why not with chickens?
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Correct, they are totally different types of chickens. Broilers, aka meat birds, have been bred to grow fast with large breasts. I raise mine for 29 to 39 days before they are ready for market. They range in live weight from 1.75 kg to 2.75 kg, depending on what the target market is.
Layers, aka egg birds, which I have no hands on experience with, are bred to maximize egg production. They are a smaller chicken than broilers. If they were the same as broilers they would have a hard time physically laying eggs.
Layers do end up being used for meat after their laying days are done, but they are a lot older, 1.5 to 2 years, so the meat would be a lot tougher and stringy. They usually end up in either chicken soup or more commonly in pet foods.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
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PJ Arends wrote: Broilers, aka meat birds, have been bred to grow fast with large breasts
A bit like Playboy Bunnies.
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One of my layers was five years old and still laying when I had to give her away (I was working away from home so I could not look after her and her friends).
And in case anyone was wondering ... the chickens came first and then the eggs.
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PJ Arends wrote: Layers do end up being used for meat after their laying days are done, but they are a lot older, 1.5 to 2 years, so the meat would be a lot tougher and stringy. They usually end up in either chicken soup or more commonly in pet foods.
It really depends on the breed. Some stop laying after 6 months. The biggest requirement for egg layers is volume (1 per day is ideal) and minimal feed per egg. Rhode Island Reds meet this requirement. They are stringy. Usually layers become "stew meat" when they stop making eggs.
The requirements for a meat bird are how fat they can get in a minimal time span. The "double breasted" chickens they engineered won't even leave the feed tray. Of course, if they did, they are too fat and could break their own legs walking... not natural, whatever the label says.
There are a few birds, like the Delaware chickens that are a nice hybrid. They forage for themselves - thus requiring less feed... and they are a bit bigger than the reds, and are better for meat. However, they don't lay the ideal egg per day. Of course, that number changes highly based on protein requirements - more protein is needed to keep up egg production in the winter, as it is harder for them to maintain body temperature. Goodness... I know far too much about this and will stop now. I've never even owned my own birds.
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You are forgetting the bird flu outbreak a while back. Millions of birds put down. The price will come down eventually.... Then again, you could always build yourself a chicken house and do it yourself. Seems to be the rage these days.
sent from dang near the chicken capital of the US... or at least I thought it was until I googled it.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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charlieg wrote: The price will come down eventually....
Hooray ! Local store just put an ad on their website for this weekend: $1 a dozen
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I think my new user name says it all (with apologies to Mr. Patton!).
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Ouch...
Here's all the best to you in your new ventures (whatever they may turn out to be)!
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Thanks!
That's what happens when oil drops below $40...
To be honest, I wasn't really enjoying it any more where I was. Hopefully something better comes along soon. I wonder if I can get a job in a brewery? 
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Quote: (with apologies to Mr. Patton!).
none need sir!, as much as it is comforting to have someone to talk to, may your stay be brief !
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I believe you have started a new official naming convention here!
Hopefully we'll both be able to return our names to normal soon...
Good luck!
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Blame Sir Vilimos, he suggested it originally not me, pass the Nuts it's ![Beer | [beer]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif) O'clock by my reconging!
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OK, so "InThePUB" was not entirely accurate last night, but I did somewhat lighten a keg of homebrew Timothy Taylor Landlord clone...!
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I have not tried Timothy Taylor clone, but the Snarling Dog Stove Topper is Good S**t Dude!
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Was expecting to see an ATM with BSOD 
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Looks like a lot of upset gambler's, left comments at the end of the article.
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