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Chris Maunder wrote: who remembers .NET Passport?
Err me. I also remember what a complete PITA it was to set up and work with. Okay, the PassportProvider was simple enough to use in ASP.NET apps. but the rest of it was a complete nightmare.
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Thank God OAuth and OpenID are so much better :P
(Actually they are trivial nowadays, but back-in-the-day...)
I was thinking more along the "OMG MS is gonna OWN me!" rants, and the legal challenges, and the FUD, and all the running around like headless chickens.
Until we all realised that single-sign-on is really, really convenient.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: Thank God OAuth and OpenID are so much better :P
(Actually they are trivial nowadays, but back-in-the-day...)
Yup. Until a few years ago, my standard rejoinder to anyone who was arguing OAuth/OpenID were better than passwords was to take a look at how their Mom would react if she tried to create a Stack Overflow account. Initially it was an unholy cluster elephant involving a popup window and copy/pasting a magic URL around.   (I picked on SO mostly because at the time it was probably the best known user of the tech among developer sites, and has a user experience so awful it'd scare 90% of mundanes away before they had created their account).
Yeah the tech Just Works (tm) now; but the interval from the initial hype to that point was many years long.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Me too 
I remember skipping the screen when installing windows 
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
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Dan Neely wrote: ... but wasn't SFW enough.
Exactly why I skipped it yes. But it was so, so true. 
TTFN - Kent
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Language popularity indices are often based on books purchased or StackOverflow questions. However educational institutions have institutionalized teaching languages such as Java, C, C++ and RDBMSs such as MySQL originally because they where free open-source, not owned by a specific company and were popular a decade ago.
As a result these indices do not reflect usage of languages or technologies used professionally (as opposed to used for learning - all the students buy the books and ask questions online for the language in their course).
Now that ORACLE owns Java and MySQL will this change? It doesn't seem to have yet. C# in particular I suspect is much more popular in the work place than indices show - because academic institutions had an aversion to teaching a "Microsoft" language.
I am speaking in general of course - though I am yet to see even today a Computer Science student who used C# in one of their courses.
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I enjoyed reading your opinions, but, without citing sources (recent sources with some scientific credibility), your arguments and hypotheses, while possible, do not convince me they are more highly probable than the "usual suspects."
Did you read the other article cited on this forum (on InfoWorld) ? If you did, it appears their methodology of looking at activity on major search engines did not register on you, since you do not mention that in your "indictment" of other studies.
"Tiobe assesses language popularity via a formula that analyzes searches in popular search sites, such as Google, Bing, Yahoo, and Wikipedia. The improved algorithm addresses the number of outliers -- "statistical noise" -- per search engine, Tiobe said in its monthly report for September."
Did you think of doing a simple Google search on "C# use in academic:" if you do, you will find evidence for C# being used in universities/colleges, like Cornell, and others.
Your post seems to me more appropriate for the Lounge ... that's not a "put-down" !
cheers, Bill
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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Suppose the moon was replaced with a similarly sized cube (instead of a sphere). Describe the phases of the cubical moon that you would see from the surface of the Earth. "I say: Pass the Dutchie on the left hand side"
'Cause you, like totally blew my mind, maaaaaaan. Cosmic!
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Kent Sharkey wrote: Describe the phases of the cubical moon that you would see from the surface of the Earth.
Well, since I'll assume that it'll still show the same face all the time: square, rectangle, sliver.
[edit] After reading the article: Doh. [/edit]
Marc
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You're saying it isn't?
P.S. "Object doesn't support property or method 'glowscript_compile'"
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IPFS is a new hypermedia distribution protocol, addressed by content and identities. IPFS enables the creation of completely distributed applications. It aims to make the web faster, safer, and more open. Yeah. Good luck with that
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IPFS is actually more similar to a single bittorrent swarm exchanging git objects. IPFS could become a new major subsystem of the internet. If built right, it could complement or replace HTTP.
coulda, woulda, shoulda.
Marc
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Lol, the NSA and Micro$oft would have to re-write all their spyware 
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Don't worry they will make sure the new protocol contains plenty of backdoors.
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The Keyboard on the page you linked to has CERN printed on it.
Illuminati Confirmed! :-P
IPFS does sound cool though. And HTTP is a little boring these days...
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This article seems to be more hype than well researched computer science. Many of the criticisms of HTTP are not related to HTTP at all. If a company goes out of business and their web site gets shut down leaving a link to a dead site, how is that an issue with HTTP?
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare
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Dominic Burford wrote: ..how is that an issue with HTTP?
My cat went missing the other day and it was all HTTP's fault. Luckily IPFS must have found him and brought him back again the following day..
Cue mass hysteria.. 
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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Well in that case I take it all back. IPFS is definitely the way forward
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare
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Not really, I hate my cat! 
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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Apple is helping customers who want to upgrade to the latest iPhone every year with a new iPhone upgrade program. There you go, Chris
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Where's that Picard facepalm when you need it...?  Sorry, but what a useless waste of resources just for short-sighted profit gains. The race of this civilization to the bottom is accelerating.
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So, what're they going to do with all the year old phones?
Will they be announcing lower cost plans next year and the year after leasing factory refurbs?
Since the yearly rate's only a bit more than half the sticker price; assuming this takes off they're going to have to find a way to offload a ton of used phones at reasonably high prices to protect their margins.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: So, what're they going to do with all the year old phones?
Landfill, obviously.
It's not like they would ever resell slightly scratched phones. Not shiny enough.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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