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... I really hate it ... lurking behind every corner of a brand new shiny PC. And (not so) recent Lenovo fiasco is just the tip of an iceberg.
Perhaps it's just me, but I really don't get what PC manufacturers expect to achieve with force feeding customers their crap. I always clean install new systems, but still ... it sucks.
It's literally like buying a classy villa only to find out it's already stuffed with the cheapest Ikea furniture glued to the walls and floors with the elephanting Boogie Bass mounted on the front door 
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Tine Svete wrote: the elephanting Boogie Bass mounted on the front door
HEY!!!!! Leave my childhood memories out of this! 
But apart from that, I agree completely. I also always clean install the computer after I've bought it, and I hate having to do that. It's unnecessary waste of time, plus you normally ALWAYS get problems because it's close to impossible to locate the correct hardware drivers on the vendors mega-bloated website!
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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What I don't understand is what motivates these companies to develop the crapware in the first place? Wouldn't it be cheaper to just sell the tech without developing things no one will ever use?
Is there any brand available where you get a pc/laptop ready to use with the selected OS installed but without any sort of crapware?
Same thing with android phones. Love the app Beats on my HTC. Can't live without it... or google+, what would I do without this one?
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I think that the crapware is normally developed by third parties hoping to get business that way - Norton is the perfect example when they get trial versions of their antivirus software preinstalled, hoping that people will buy a real license when the trial runs out.
I just don't see what the computer company gains by pissing their users off??? I guess that they get paid well by the thirdparty companies to include their crap...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Member 11683251 wrote: Is there any brand available where you get a pc/laptop ready to use with the selected OS installed but without any sort of crapware?
I believe MS is doing that with Signature Edition (or something) branding ... though sadly not available in my country ... and only applicable to those not thinking of Windows themselves as crapware 
modified 19-Nov-18 21:01pm.
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It is supposed to deceive regular (non-tech-savvy) users into thinking they are getting a lot of free software with their purchase, thus gaining an advantage over the competition. In other words, typical marketing BS.
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True, but people like that shouldn't be allowed to own a computer... 
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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In that case, most of us'll be out of a job 
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I KNEW it! It's YOU that's developing all the crapware! 
Besides: At least I wouldn't have to work for free as computer support for all my computer illiterate friends!
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Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Tine Svete wrote: but I really don't get what PC manufacturers expect to achieve with force feeding customers their crap.
Of course - if the revenue they expect would go to the consumer, the whole shebabalua would be pointless!
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"And this, kids, is why you should learn to build your own PC."
-Anticrapware Man
"It's hard to beat someone who never quits".
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Eh, uhm, sorry for pointing this out, but it's 2015. The dinosaur era of the stationary megalodon cabinets is over!
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Is this something new? I just posted a reply to previous message and for some reason it is hidden.
Just got a email that it is considered to be a spam. New spam filter?
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Yes. Please deposit 42 dollars (Canadian) to post three more messages...
modified 26-Aug-15 1:04am.
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OK. Can you please send me your bank account and credit card details so I can deposit the money? 
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My bank doesn't handle such fiddling small change.
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It's only you, because you're a notorious Danish spammer, I'm sure...
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Why would a Dane spam when they have all that BACON?
veni bibi saltavi
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Touché! Good observation!
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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I will be terrible at that then. I am hardly a regular poster.
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Yes, it is a built in spam algorithm/software.
I'm sure you can submit a request to Bob to be added to the safe senders list, as I did.
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I'm trying to do the sensible thing.
When you work at home, is it better to eat out every day ?
(Or, if not every day, most days.)
Since starting my work from home job, I have observed that I have spent as many as 60 hours without opening the door. During those times, I have slept less, slept far more irregularly, exercised less and exercised less regularly; i.e., all the bad things; and these behaviors have shown an absolutely singularly defining mark: working at home instead of a company owned building.
I did a little thinking, and I'm wondering if I am making up an excuse to be lazy and avoid the ancillary facets of a meal (also known as "work") or if this really is the cause of the problem (or at least a significantly contributing factor) and should be rectified by local restaurants.
Food via home cooking...
- Internet shopping and comparison of local stores
- Drive to grocery store(s)
- Stalk the aisles
- Stand in line to checkout
- Load car
- Drive back home
- Unload car
- Refrigerator space allocation
Those occur two or three times a week
- Meal prep
- Dishwasher and the dishes
- Kitchen chores
- Take out the trash
Those occur every day, sometimes twice
Now for...
Food via eating out...
- Drive to restaurant
- Order the meal, wait on the prep
- Eat it
- Pay
- Leave and drive back home
From looking at those two lists, I see three factors that are about the same: Driving there, driving back, and the wait (the prep time is about equal to the checkout lane).
Have others here (others who have worked both traditionally, and from home) done a similar analysis ? If so, can you share knowledge gleaned from personal experience ?
I'm starting to wonder how much money I'm actually "saving" by doing all the work myself at home.
I would like to suggest a reference point salary of eight hundred dollars per week. I got that number from the U.S. Bureau Of Labor Statistics, HERE[^] While far from perfect, it's in the ballpark and close enough for this discussion.
If Joe Generalguy makes $800 a week, then how much is he "paying himself" by doing his own food as opposed to buying two burgers and fries out of his wages ?
More to the point: Does home food prep have any real payoff for work-at-home people ?
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Simple.
Spend a week eating out and a week at home doing it self. Compare the costs. I suspect the second will be cheaper, but most of the time its not about money...
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What does the Mrs. think?
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