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I use something like a 7 second rule (it could be more or less seconds, and it might not be "rule" or "law" but you get the idea)
- The first 7 seconds are the most important. The user will want to know "what am I looking at?" and "what can I do here?" (Even if it is not the first time the user visits)
- If you kept the user's attention (s)he will pay more close attention for a second phase of 7 seconds. The first questions still linger, but in addition the user will search for how (s)he can perform a task or navigate through the site.
- If you kept the user's attention for this first 14 seconds (s)he will actually start using the site until no more needed.
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It's usually a java scrip error.
But on a side note, Those sites that make you view advertising for 30 or 60 seconds before you can read the news, I fire up inspect element in Firefox and disable the modal ad in about 10 seconds. There are some sites in which the ad never goes away, or you click close ad and it doesn't close, inspect element for sure.
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If it's one of the web pages I've developed then off I go to debugging it. This, naturally, is only hypothetical in that it is always perfection and all bugs are browser or user problems.
After that, it depends, but unless it's someone I know who'd appreciate the feedback, I realize I may as well just throw the small fry back into the lake and try my luck again after it grows up.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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All browsers have their quirks so if a site doesn't work for me I normally try it in a different browser - that often fixed most of the problems. Some developers just don't have the time allocated to make sure everything works on all browsers, or just don't care as long as it works on their favourite.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I always try in a different browser too. Then if it doesn't work in Chrome, Firefox and IE, that means the website/the business is not for me.
Alex Sanseau
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I voted other because I would try another browser also. That would be the first thing I try.
Second, I guess I would try and clear the cache.
I think I have contacted the owner a few times in the past but messages often go into a black hole.
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what about "write a breif exact explanation of the bug / issue in the bugs n sugs section"?
The trouble with people, is that they want to hear only what they want to hear.
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In my experience, honey gets you more flies than vinegar.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Sure, but you get even more flies with manure
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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Only if you leave it alone, not if you throw it...
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Hmmmm... pickled flies
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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If it's my credit cards, then one of them wouldn't take a payment in Chrome, but worked in IE. Snotty email for that one, fixed about two months later.
Otherwise, if the site doesn't work, I tend to assume they are as uncaring of clients and just move along. Most things, it doesn't matter because there are other sites doing the same anyway...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Only if the site has bugs and/or glitches.
I don't go out of my way to condemn a website's owner because I don't like the anti-spammer algorithms or the fact that it employs a mascot named Bob.
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Is a website indeed.
Perhaps, tempering with the website's source code is never my style, reading the documentation is a good way to handle such scenarios. But, if a website is the one I am looking for I would easily get into it in a matter of few days, if I still cannot get it to work like I want it to, then I would simply leave it.
Not because, I don't like it, but because it is my perspective, there might be others who are very fond of the way website is working, the way things are going on the way the terms and policy settings are managed. If I don't like it, I have no right to criticize it on social media. After all, social media is one of the top listed things in my critic response!
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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The internet is very big. If a page doesn't work I look for another one that does. Almost always I am only interested in reading text so I don't need fancy stuff to work. I just need it to not cause problems. Usually the problem is the flash content of intrusive advertising.
There is no point in offering technical solutions because the problem is the policy of optimising advertising revenue.
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Exactly. Even if I feel I should take a look at that specific site, I can still check out Google Cache, or Google Translate (show original). It always works one way or the other.
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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Have a glass and retry, then I'll send Sean an e-mail telling him why Chris has made a mistake.
veni bibi saltavi
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I use Chrome as a default browser.
Whenever a site doesn't work or feels cluncky I try IE.
So far the only website I use that only runs well in IE is that of the Microsoft Virtual Academy though
Of course if I have alternatives I go to a different site.
If there aren't any alternatives I just suck it up, with or without complaining on CP. Latest example...[^]
Another awful website that doesn't really work on any browser is that of our government, DigiD. I'm guessing it's not just our government though
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I have personally found Microsoft Virtual Academy a very much helpful resource, but for intermediates. If you are beginner, just don't go to that site. It isn't meant for you.
Since we are talking about the website, not just MVA, I would say, IE and Chrome are not the culprit, it depends on the choice of a developer, how he targets the machine and user-agent. He must be able to provide same user-experience on both, Chrome and IE (others also!).
I have never tried IE, always been a Chrome user, will be one of the Chrome users. I wonder how would I act for Edge (the new IE). Let's see.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote: but for intermediates. If you are beginner, just don't go to that site I've found great stuff for beginners as well! I used it when I started out with web development. The HTML and JavaScript tutorials are great.
Also used it for my Microsoft certificates, which is more intermediate level.
The problem I have in Chrome is with the video plugin. For some reason it keeps hiding and then showing the progress bar at the bottom. Really very annoying. IE doesn't have that problem.
I've had some websites using SilverLight (I think that's what it was?) that was also only supported in IE.
Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote: IE and Chrome are not the culprit, it depends on the choice of a developer Sure, but sometimes developers (myself including) miss a browser compatibility issue and since IE is still the most widely used browser chances are it's at least tested in IE
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You were not a beginner Sander, I am talking about noobs. I know a few, they never understood what they were talking about. As already said, the level is pre-intermediate (if we have to settle things) but not at all a beginner, or even post-beginner.
I have never been streaming videos, or using the <video> as I have convinced myself to prefer software development over web development. Here, I would have same mind-set as yours, JavaScript.
Many bootstraps can be used, but they still leave us to agree to their rules and they way-of-development. Overall, web development is just a pain! It is easy, the only part hard is the design. Then, making it compatible with all of the browsers.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote: You were not a beginner Sander Alright, I guess previous programming experience is required
Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote: Overall, web development is just a pain! Couldn't agree more! Sometimes I wish I was doing WinForms development again
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and if it doesn't I chuck it or if I really need to to something on it I'd try working with the broken version (if its still workable).
"Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence."
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