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Ah, the singularity.
This would be agreeable, to say that the original builder of the code:
1. builds the target
2. scans the target for malicious bytes
3. verifies there are no such malicious bytes in his target
4. generates the hash and publishes it along with his target.
No more virus scanning needed. If it matches the hash it must be the same file.
But, alas, they are saying this can be hacked. Hmmm...who'da thunk it?
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newton.saber wrote: 2. scans the target for malicious bytes
With what?
A compiler/linker will output an .EXE which a virus can immediately infect so how are you going to know what the "malicious bytes" are? How are you going to compare what the compiler/linker intended to write to disk with what was actually written? There is a window of time between when the file is written to disk and when the hash algorithm is run against it that a virus can infect the file. This is the piece you are forgetting about.
newton.saber wrote: No more virus scanning needed.
Bull. Granted virus scanners are not a perfect solution. The entire industry is stuck on the side of being reactionary to a new virus because there is currently no technology that exists that can guarantee a file being written to disk is what was intended to be written by some non-virus application operation.
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote: so how are you going to know what the "malicious bytes"
Uh, isn't that what the virus scanners do? They have signatures of malicious bytes and they scan the bytes in the target to determine if there are bytes that match?
Isn't that why virus scanning is so slow?
It sounds as if there is no way to ever determine whether or not the code a dev build is virus-free.
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newton.saber wrote: Uh, isn't that what the virus scanners do?
And you said they were stupid. Maybe, but it's the only solution we have.
newton.saber wrote: It sounds as if there is no way to ever determine whether or not the code a dev build is virus-free.
No there isn't and this is where "managing risk" comes into play.
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Message Closed
modified 15-May-15 7:18am.
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And you think that posting your problem in the Lounge will help? You're in the wrong place, Bubba!
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Why not phone and ask them?
My plan is to live forever ... so far so good
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Given the fact that s/he joined today and is using the "new spammer" avatar, I guess this was just a test message before a weekend of spamming.
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Wow that is incredibly sad news.
These men displayed that they have no character and no sense of morality.
"Age wrinkles the body. Quitting wrinkles the soul."
-Douglas MacArthur
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Sadly that's one of the very few cases reported. At one point murder was classified as "died from natural causes" to try and get our violent crime stats down. Even so, our country taking a high speed train away from morality.
... and in our next topic we should start discussing covering statues in feces when we don't agree with some part of distant history (search Rhodes statue on News24) ...
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Quote: covering statues in feces when we don't agree with some part of distant history
According to your President, you should blame Van Riebeeck who landed in the Cape in 1652! 
I was born in SA and lived there for the first 50 years of my life. It saddens me to see how the infrastructure and respect for law and order is collapsing! 
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I still don't want to live anywhere else, but things are getting worse. Soweto marched today to show government that they don't want to pay for electricity (Mandela apparently promised that 20 years ago). I also saw that now that we are getting used to Load Shedding they are starting too think about Food Shedding (agricultural land reform) and Water Shedding (over use of resources and pollution). In this rainbow nation there is no treasure at the end of the rainbow.
Cornelius Henning wrote: According to your President
According to our president corruption is a western concept, hence we don't have any problems with billions of rands going into elected officials pockets every year.
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Quote: According to our president corruption is a western concept
I don't quite know how to respond to this! I always thought corruption is corruption in any culture. It shows you how little I know!
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In african tribalism the chief deserves the biggest, best and most of everything.
This leads to almost every person in power (in government or governmental departments) feeling entitled to taking anything they can get their hands on, as long as they have more than the people under them. This includes multi-million rand monthly KFC bills (no jokes).
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Cornelius Henning wrote: I am not religious
I don't see how that's relevant...
I also don't care if she was a nun, an engineer, a police woman or any profession you can come up with and if she was 18, 86 or anything in between.
Raping and killing is despicable, no matter who the victim is.
Although these two savages may be swept off the face of the earth for all I care.
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Quote: I don't see how that's relevant...
I wanted to make it clear that I did not post the item just because I am a Catholic, that's all!
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About 6 years ago, two men broke into a house in the city where I live, raped and murdered a woman in her mid 50s that was severely mentally handicapped. Winners...
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There is not a Hell hot enough for this kind of monster! 
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Also keep in mind, bail for rape is R1000, while bail for murder is only R500. It's cheaper to kill the victim instead of just raping her, if you do get caught. Don't forget that the same happens to 6 week old babies. It's just so common these days that it's no longer noteworthy.
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R1000 is about US$ 90?! 90 Dollars bail for rape? Including the rape of a baby?! Half that for murder? Unbelievable!
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You're not supposed to be able to understand it.
If you could then that would make you at least partially as dangerous.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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This is really a question for developers, but how do you prefer to keep up to date with what's going on in the world of software? Magazines? Websites? Books?
It seems like there's so many sources of information out there one could spend all day every day just reading about new technologies and ideologies and never actually do any work.
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Who the heck reads magazines any more?
"Hello" readers excepted...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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