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Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution?
mvarey
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Microsoft essentials/defender/whatever the name it has today, and lots of care.
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Yeah, if you want to invite all viruses, spyware and malware out there to have their party in your computer. I thought people know by now that the essentials/defender is kind of scam.
They can't detect even the most obvious malicious code even if you show it to them.
The only place where this crap can detect/clean virus is in the published "research" of some "sponsored" computer labs, published in some "independent" computer magazines. 
There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet!
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I have been using it for two years now, and it did its job so far. (Here I set the timer for the answer that I know will come)
McAfee, as well as Avira, as well as AVG, in whatever flavor you may install them, are increasing your PC start-up time by 10,000% and are implemented as a pile of crap services that literally suck out your CPU. Never ever.
And you may notice I did not even dare to mention Norton, the Mother of all viruses.
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Rage wrote: I have been using it for two years now, and it did its job so far.
This is because you use a common cense when browsing. It was same with me, until my teenage daughter got a laptop and access to my computers and I got close encounters with all viruses on the net. 
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Deyan Georgiev wrote: you use a common cense when browsing
Indeed, read my post, I wrote "lots of care", this was only partly ironical.
I taught that lesson to my MIL once by formatting her computer after she got it infected by a "you won the lottery - click on that attached executable" email.
[quote] "Sorry, this is the only solution. I told you to be careful." [/quote]
I told her only two weeks later that she did not lose all her pictures (I backed them up) *evil grin*
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Deyan Georgiev wrote: until my teenage daughter got a laptop and access to my computers and I got close encounters with all viruses on the net
For that use case : Try a virtual machine to run the browser.
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If someone else who you know isn't careful is on your computer - virtual machine is the way to go for anything they need. That is non-negotiable with my computer.
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no need for common sense (most people lack it while surfing online) ,just don't use the computer as administrator and never give administrator rights to teenage daughter.
If admin authentication pop-up appears when surfing websites or opening email, something is fishy.
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Nope, not Avira. I noticed maaaaybe a 2 second increase in boot time. (Win10 x64, E6570, 4GB RAM, 120GB SSD as C: )
Edit:
Also, if you're looking at a corporate/enterprise AV product, cast an eye towards Sophos. I've had previous experience with them and can (and am  recommend them.
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AndrewJacksonZA wrote: 120GB SSD
Could that speed up a bit the scan at startup ... ?
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I don't know. Well, probably because it's an SSD any I/O impact would be minimized. I put the two second increase down to having to load and initialize Avira: my E6750 ran at 100% during boot up before installing Avira and now it has another program to load at startup (it only has two cores.)
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I've been recommending Microsoft's Defender/Security essentials for years.
My family and I (teenage daughters) have been using it without problems for as long.
Microsoft's suite performs well in all reviews/evaluations I've read.
I'd like to know how it is 'kind of a scam'.
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I have found that Windows Defender/MSE is far better than McAfee. As for MSE only being able to catch stuff in the lab I'd have to disagree. I use MSE/Defender on a daily basis and used to run it on a network with other AV packages deployed to the rest of the network. MSE would catch stuff that Panda, Vipre, McAfee, and Symantec would all miss. About the only product I have found that outperforms MSE/Defender in the real world is MalwareBytes.
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I ran Malwarebytes for a while, and it is good, but I found that Kaspersky is better. Kaspersky removed two rootkits from my son's computer that Windows Defender had let in. I did find that Kaspersky caused my wife to not be able to load docx files from email, until I added an exception in Kaspersky to allow those files to be opened even if they were from another computer.
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No, I can't explain it either. 
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If you are you trying to reply to my request to explain "Would you like fries with that?", I deleted my request when I saw that someone else had answered it by referring to http://www.jokes-news.com/do-you-want-fries-with-that/
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Yes, especially if your have Windows 8. Microsoft rolled out a new version of Defender that is more potent than MS Security Essentials or Defender for earlier version of Windows. Note: In my experience Defender works well for the latest viruses, but not too well for old viruses. I suspect MS focuses on malware that are more likely to occur - ie later creations. This may cause Defender to score low on tests, that evaluate it against viruses of all ages. However, this is just my personal impression.
The nice part: Defender (for Windows 8) and Security Essentials (For Win 7), are both free!
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Good point, Windows 8.1 here. I have actually never run it on 7.
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I dumped Symantec years ago, when Security essentials caught a virus embedded in an email, that Symantec failed to discover. I have never regretted this decision.
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Ironically, their best software was their own uninstaller : it would remove every single bit of any symantec product on your computer, and was very effective. (It was supposed to be run before upgrading or installing a new symantec program, but if you ignored that last step  )
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Rage wrote: it would remove every single bit of any symantec product on your computer
Definitely not the uninstaller I used, it left a mess, admittedly this was 5-6 years ago. I had to manually uninstall the damn thing  ohh what fun! The only good thing is, they had instructions for manually uninstalling it. The fact that they have those instructions available is scary.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
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I wonder whether these companies realize how many customers they lose, by rushing half-completed apps to market, that p*ss off their customers and thus lose future revenues? Mr. Manager: Is it really worth sacrificing your company's long term future for the sake of your next quarterly bonus?
modified 4-May-15 12:30pm.
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They've certainly lost my business, and indirectly lost more due to me telling people about my experiences with them.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Yes! If you lose one customer the future cost to your company is unknown and unknowable! But since so many companies are run by accountant types, who cannot wrap their heads around the long term unknowable, focus tends to be on short term profits!
modified 4-May-15 11:51am.
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