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Rage wrote: I am not aware of phone carrier personalizing their versions (how would they do that ?)
I've had it in the past with 3 - you get a load of 3 apps pre-installed, a few things disabled/limited.. Even when you get it unlocked, you'll still have the network version of the OS installed and it'll only update when they release an update, unless you root it..
I don't know how it all works from a business point of view - I guess that it's part of the manufacturers deal with the networks to get their devices sold through the network's official store.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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I'd ask here[^] what the options are. It's a thriving community with a lot of experts who are willing to help (even if you're a complete novice, like I was), and a lot of expertly built roms.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Joan Murt wrote: there are the phone manufacturers who make their specific versions for their phones and then there are the phone carriers who make their own personalization layers...
Shouldn't I be able to go to Samsung and download an international upgrade directly?
Good luck with that. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
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As Rage mentioned above, if it came from the phone company then it is likely bundled with their bloat, tied to their network, and the BootLoader is locked. So unlocking it is step one, if they didn't disable the ability to do that. Once that is done, you would need to find and download the version you want and then install it yourself.
For the most part the entire process is quick and painless. Programs have been written to do most of the heavy lifting for you. I've only bricked one phone and that was my own doing. Forgot to charge or plug it in, battery died mid-install. Won't turn on at all now.
That said, if something goes wrong you are responsible for it and may end up buying a new phone.
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This is exactly what put me off Android a couple of years ago. Needlessly stupid.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Where are you now? Microsoft? Apple?
I can tell I'm missing blackberry after changing to android...
Certainly I can do some more things with Android, but the things I was able to do with blackberry where much better done than now with my Android...
Keyboard, shortcuts, voice recognition without internet available, data plans, ...
Now I got a Samsung S4 which I don't want to root and that can't get the new versions because of my carrier company... 
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Apple. And I loved it. Until their software quality took a steep nosedive.
I actually found my old Blackberries yesterday and got all nostalgic.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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If they are still alive... probably my next phone will be a blackberry classic (or what is similar to that one at that moment).
I do miss the ability to use the phone as an external HDD, to be able to write what I want and not what my phone wants, to have a physical keyboard which is nice, to be able to select text easily (using the touchpad), to be able to read web pages without problems as the text is automatically placed to be maximized, to be able to use it's integrated dragon assistant that works without data network available, to have shortcuts... oh, and of course to be able to silence the notifications except for the calls at night...
I had an old curve blackberry which of course it's far away from the bolds and similar ones, but even though, now that I own a Samsung galaxy S4 I do miss some things...
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OriginalGriff wrote: I'll download it tomorrow...
That's more "cunctation" than "procrastination", don't you think? 
Unless of course you think downloading it is more important than coding. 
You have just been Sharapova'd.
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Agent__007 wrote: cunctation
Try saying that five time when you're pissed.
Hmm. We may have stumbled onto the reason why it fell out of use.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Try saying that five time when you're pissed.
I did and the waitress slapped me.
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
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I got that ages ago; might read it some time.
veni bibi saltavi
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I downloaded it but will wait until tomorrow or the next day to read it.
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
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Is that so?[^]
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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The Doodle of the day takes you to a Google "What animal are you?" Quiz.
Odd questions - or at least some odd answers - but it seems I am "You're a giant squid!You can achieve anything to which you put your mind and/or your massive tentacles."
I am embarrassed to say that I misread the final word... 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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You're a pangolin!
The practical sort, you know just when to curl up into a ball to thwart predators.
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Same here! We should meet somewhere and plot to take over Earth! 
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yeah, I too read spectacles instead. 
Oh, and I am also a squid.
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That's a load of balls.
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i got a woolly Mammoth, apparently so unique that i should be extinct... thanks google, i'll remember that...
Life's like a nose, you've got to get out of it whats in it!
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A komodo dragon!
You have an appetite for life – as well as the ability to swallow an entire goat.
But why would I want to swallow a whole goat?
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: But why would I want to swallow a whole goat?
If it's barbequed...
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I'll join the shoal of squid.
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I'm apparently a Mantis Shrimp[^].
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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