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I started web development with PHP - it was okay, certainly better than "classic" ASP.
I think that's part of the problem people have with ASP.NET, the "ASP" bit in the name. That plus the WebForms way of doing things.
The way ASP.NET MVC is these days, I wouldn't choose anything else, but it's been a long time getting here! 
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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There aren't any Facebooks or Twitters running ASP.NET that I'm aware of. But last I recall SO runs a flavor of it, and that gets plenty of traffic (what I'm assuming is your measure of 'globally successful').
There's also the cost of the tools to consider. These huge sites (FB, Twitter, Amazon, et al.) were developed quite some time ago. Long before MS offered any significant tooling free of charge. PHP, Java, JS dev tooling has always been lower cost. You've already discussed hosting costs in another thread, but also remember the timing - Azure is competitive today, but not back when these huge sites went live.
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That's a good point about the tools. I think Microsoft missed something when making Visual Studio so expensive. It's a lot better price-wise these days and good to see the Community Edition free of charge. They've probably lost a lot of business in the meantime.
I wasn't aware SO runs on ASP.NET, that's cool that there's at least one well known site running on it 
Vark111 wrote: Azure is competitive today, but not back when these huge sites went live.
Hopefully given the changes currently going on with ASP.NET we'll see a lot more coming online. Fingers crossed.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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Brent Jenkins wrote: I wasn't aware SO runs on ASP.NET,
They're quite open about how the sites are built:
http://meta.stackexchange.com/a/10370[^]
ASP.NET MVC 5, C#, Razor 3, IIS8, SQL 2014.
The only real surprise is the data access layer - they still use LINQ to SQL, which fell out of favour with Microsoft in 2008[^].
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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They're also using Dapper (which I've never heard of before).. I guess maybe they're in the process of switching over from Linq to SQL?
https://github.com/StackExchange/dapper-dot-net[^]
The stats there on EF are pretty horific compared to the others. It'd be interesting to see the code they used to perform the tests.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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Quote: I wasn't aware SO runs on ASP.NET, that's cool that there's at least one well known site running on it
And...you know...CodeProject 
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Well, er "globally successful sites"
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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Brent Jenkins wrote:
But I do wonder why (it appears, at least) no globally successful sites use it?
Because it costs money: when you are a startup in your mom's basement and all your money goes on pizza, it's far easier to use LAMP to get your business idea up and running.
I have also made a very nice living from the MS stack but it is rarely the first choice of new and underfunded companies because of the perception of cost and open-sourcers deep seated and utterly irrational hatred of MS.
OTOH, I recently worked for a startup that did use ASP.Net... and... MySQL!!! Pleased to be away from that steaming pile of free crap.
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Karel Čapek wrote: ASP.Net... and... MySQL
I've seen that.. MySQL used to be good years ago, but it's been terrible since Oracle worked their magic on it 
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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The version we were using didn't play nice with EF - EF would not see any stored procs. Pain.
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The last time I used MySQL the developer tools were pretty flaky. I haven't had to work with MySQL since 2010 though 
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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The service is simple -- use your know-how to answer questions people are asking on Bing. Maybe this will take some pressure off of Q&A
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Big Distill?
Should've called it Galvanize.
Galvanize is a word that should be used constantly.
I am galvanizing right now with all my synergies and it is beginning to kickstart something that will blow up twitter.
Microsoft marketing just ain't what it used to be.
They used to market and then, much later, much, much later, release a product which was only vaporware.
They probably should start galvanizing more.
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The PM who thought that name was a good idea was consuming copious quantities of product from distill. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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"Bing This Till"?
What are they trying to say?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Google's wind turbines don't look like the ones you might see along the US coastline. "Easy come, easy go. Anyway the wind blows"
I don't know what's crazier: this design, or the fact that Google has an employee named 'Astro Teller'
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If I fixated on a woman in a manner resembling the devotion American corporations demand of workers, I would rightly be condemned as a crazy person and subjected to a restraining order. "Can't live without passion"
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You're not a good programmer if you don't have 3-4 restraining order against you?
Everyone does right?
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0
When you are dead you don't know it, it's only difficult for others.
It's the same when you're stupid.
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What a BS article!
To sum it up:
OP: I choose the wrong profession in life and to make myself feel better I will try to categorize anybody who actually does enjoy their job as some sort of weirdo stalker
Jackass!
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I knew people would love it 
TTFN - Kent
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Very interesting that the majority is denying 1/3 of their life doing something they deem not important.
Instead of introspection, they blame it to their boss, coworker, society. As if others are responsible to make their 8H worthwhile to their own life.
If you are thinking like that, change your job, or you will become an hollow body standing without any soul.
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Kent Sharkey wrote: the devotion American corporations demand of workers
That's the major flaw of his argument; it's just not true by any measure. Douchebaggery supreme.
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He's mistaking passion for slave labor. He was enslaved by the startup culture (which, admittedly, throws around the word "passion" as a double-secret code word for "slave"), which values 12 hour work days.
You can have intense passion for your programming career and still not be enslaved by your employer. I spend ~12 hours a day programming, but only 8 of them are for my employer. The other ~4 are for me. My hobbies, like game dev or learning a new language (which will never be used at my current job).
He has a valid point about the startup culture 12 hour work days. But that has nothing to do with programmer passion.
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When you chat with friends about settling debts or splitting the bill, Facebook doesn’t want you to have to open another app like PayPal or Venmo to send them money. Bu-bye Paypal, you had a good run
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I don't trust Facebook with any information. Letting them anywhere near financial information just seems foolhardy, with their cavalier attitude to privacy.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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