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Gyver. eMacGyver.
I am out.
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Surely they'll collectively called umacs?
If Vi has a sister, maybe she'll be Eve? (middle initials TPU?)
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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My friend's partner has the surname Edlin
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I'm an optoholic - my glass is always half full of vodka.
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You need to learn your way around it, learn how to find what you are looking for, but more often than not it's there. Like a somewhat quirky and sometimes clumsy buddy - but one who's always there for you, day and night, and never wants something in return (except the occasional survey). One of those that you really don't care much about, but would dearly miss if they were gone. (So, less like a buddy, and more like a slave. fine.)
For the sheer size of the API it's a tremendous source - and it has significantly improved in the recent years.
- About X
- Using X
- X Reference
makes me feel at home.
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I could say, that I cannot just propose MSDN otherwise, there is no limit for how much I love MSDN, for being a helpful buddy of mine when I get stuck anywhere... in the middle of night! 
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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I love MSDN, but it drives me nuts when I'm looking at some docs and scratching my head as some weirdness and then realize I'm looking at the CE API docs (or the other way around.)
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Ha! I know!
I guess recognizing CE on the URL and general formatting is a survival skill like telling a leopard in the jungle from Susy wearing leopard print.
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IIRC you just drag and drop them, right?
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Drag and drop from the toolbox perhaps?
Controls can be dropped only on groups; you cannot drag a control directly to a tab or to the Ribbon.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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LOL - Notice how they put that statement AFTER the "Add controls to the groups" link. So you click the link, go to the controls section, and voila!, you're now confused.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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IMHO MSDN is the best technical documentation I've used in the past 15 years.
Kevin Marois wrote: It lists all the controls you can add , but not how to actually add them!!!
That would only add clutter. Check out the properties, I'd guess there's something like a Controls collection.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: IMHO MSDN GOOGLE is the best technical documentation I've used in the past 15 years.
FTFY
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Do you mean the search-engine that you use to search MSDN, CodeProject and SO, or did you mean their documentation?
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Correct! MSDN is the best developer guidance resource out there... It just takes an intermediate level of understanding of the language only.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Huh? Not sure how you came up with that boatload of baseless assumptions...
My point is if you have a section called "Adding Controls", then it should also contain the part about dragging controls onto the tab.
THAT'S why I hate MSDN. I rarely use it, because the information is technically accurate but practically useless, it's not real world, and it's scattered all over the place.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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I really do agree to your claim, MSDN has a function description for everything in their APIs but they don't show an example for everything.. and mostly they're just paragraphic notes for everything (and they are just too technical).
But that doesn't provide any base to hate them, learn the language you're going to use. Once that has been done, you will find MSDN the best resource for a developer. You can count on me on this one. 
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Quote: because the information is technically accurate but practically useless,
Doesn't this describe just about any "Help" you get from Microsoft on their products?
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I don't like to admit it, much, but...I like MSDN.
It's not perfect (and some of it reads like the new-kid was given the job and pressed COMMIT without anyone reviewing it) - but I started with paper manuals, and MSDN is far, far better than those:
It's more up-to-date than a paper bookIt's searchableIt's portable - I can read it anywhere, the documentation for the first version of MFC was two foot thick!It's (mostly) got examplesIt's in there somewhere - even if it's not trivial to find, it's at worst a few minutes awayIt's freeNo, it's not perfect; yes, some of the examples are a waste of space.
But given the sheer volume of information, it does pretty well.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Try the java world for a while... It'll really make you appreciate MSDN.
I've always had a love/hate relationship with Microsoft, but there are a few things they do REALLY well...
* .NET / MSDN
* Office
Ok, a couple things... And yes, we all hate Excel/VBA, but that's usually because SOME people treat it as a bad development environment instead of a good spreadsheet with macros.
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