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Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote: Free free freeeee
Um...no. These aren't the release version. They will be - at best - beta. And Microsoft beta at that, which for a "Normal" company is alpha or less. And Microsoft will not guarantee that anything you do using a beta will work in any way, shape, or form with the release versions. So anything you do now had better be nothing you want to support past December, because there is a good chance it won't work at all after then... 
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Yeah well this is the case that i was trying to skip and not pay attention to 
Why don't you let me smile for even a second, why Griff why. 
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
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Because I'm a Grumpy Old F@rt?
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How dare you say that, you want me to flag you to OriginalGriff?
Griff... where are you?
The sh*t I complain about
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Sitting at my computer.
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Ok, tell me onething, when you're looking at your computer's screen, what actually are you looking at? Instead of pixels.
The sh*t I complain about
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It's full of stars!
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Film stars? You must be watching Avengers... so you're not old anymore  welcome back to the bonus round Griff 
The sh*t I complain about
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It's a quote[^]
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OriginalGriff wrote: And Microsoft will not guarantee that anything you do using a beta will work in any way, shape, or form
They don't guarantee that with release versions either.
(Ah, the joys of taking a quote out of context, mwahaha!)
Marc
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That explains a lot about QA...
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OriginalGriff wrote: That explains a lot about QA...
Are you referring to my Q&A questions? If so, no, that's because I'm finding myself kicking and screaming at MVC and EF and Razor, which is all a pile of rubbish IMO.
Marc
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It's only for test - in a VM. to see what we got...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Never done that - no 8/8.1 crossed my door...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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JMK-NI wrote: Is there any noticeable improvement over Visual Studio 2013 Update 4 on 8.1?
Yes. They only took one day to install.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I installed on on my MacBook using Parallels 10 - didn't take too long, maybe a couple of hours 
I really like the look of MVC6 although I'm going to have to change some of my existing code around routing.
I also think that the project.json file format makes sense but they could probably do with some kind of GUI for editing it in the final version (especially for large and/or complex project.json files).
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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3 couples for me...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I'm going to do the same.
Windows 10 is already installed. It took about 40 minutes to download it and VirtualBox and install both. So it was the VS installation that took so long?
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Definitely...It is a two part install - the first for the Visual Studio and the second is for the mobile platform...
Took almost 6 hours (including download)...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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 Thank you for the information.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: I installed them on a VM for test purposes - it took all day long...
I feel your pain. I had to update to SP 1 for W7 to install VS 2013 Community. That wasn't so bad because there's a full ISO and specific processor EXE's you can download.
But VS 2013 Community, there's no such thing, so it took 4 hours on my laptop, it'll take another 4 hours on my desktop. Couldn't find a a full download file for the thing.
If I want to install it in a VM, again, sit and wait around for the web installer.
I hate web-based installers.
Marc
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There is no ISO (full download) for Visual Studio, but if you have an MSDN subscription (and even then only for final products)...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: There is no ISO (full download) for Visual Studio, but if you have an MSDN subscription (and even then only for final products)...
Indeed. I do (or did actually) have an MSDN subscription, so I happily have 2005, 8, 10, 12 full ISO's.
Marc
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Which remind me that I have a MSDN subscription - so checked. I was wrong - there is 2015 preview ISO, but no 2013 Community at all...I was just an idiot not to think about it...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: but no 2013 Community at all..
They want to count every single download. 
Marc
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