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Yeah, there has to be a separation from the music, I agree.
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As for Obama, I see him as George Bush with a better tan.
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I noticed that when I looked at what the political cartoonists did: same ears, more shading.
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B. Clay Shannon wrote: As for Obama, I see him as George Bush with a better tan.
Yes, that's true. That's why he was re-elected in 2008, because there were so many people, like yourself, who loved W and wanted more of him in 2008. So since there was no difference they went ahead and re-elected him in 2008 but with a different name.
They are both Presidents. They are both male. They both wear suits. They both live in America. They both eat food for their meals. So many similarities and no one would've noticed without your astute political savvy calling attention to this sameness.
Oh, now there is a word: Savvy!
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Why would you assume I was a fan of "W"? I am not; I am apolitical. The "red" and "blue" they are described as is, to me, more like gray and silver.
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B. Clay Shannon wrote: Why would you assume I was a fan of "W"
Oh, I didn't know you voted for Obama. That's fine. But I don't think that voting is apolitical. But, if it is, then that is okay too. Voting and not voting, they are the same in an asymmetrical world where not-equal is equal to equal. It's only in the symmetrical world where things which are different, but seem the same.
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I didn't vote for Obama! The word "apolitical" means "without politics" - I do not vote!
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B. Clay Shannon wrote: I do not vote!
In my books, this equates to "I do not have the right to complain about things that politicians do!".
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I liked Nugent in his Damn Yankees[^] phase. He certainly knows how to write a hook.
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They're not synonyms.
i.e. I'm happy to drink soave, but dubonnet is for girls.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Serious question...the answer is, of course, "Yes" because a "No" would be an exercise in absolutism, putting upon me the onus of proving impossibility.
OK...Enough with the mealy-mouthing that happens on political fora.
With all due consideration given to my brethren and cistern (ooops) forum-mates who did the etymological thing, here's my take from the idiomatic.
I can see if someone is debonair. It's a matter of dress and carriage.
OTOH, it isn't until I interact with someone that I know if they are suave.
Just my thoughts
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BiggerDon wrote: I can see if someone is debonair. It's a matter of dress and carriage.
So James Bond is debonair, but not suave? (I mean come on! Shaken?!)
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Au contraire!
One can be both, and James Bond is the classic example of that.
I've known people who are debonair and not suave. They dress well, carry themselves with confidence and aplomb, but when they open their yaps they're immediately irritating someone. There's a seven letter word that starts with "a" and looks like an asterisk that describes them.
Then there are the people who are suave without being debonair. They really don't care about what other people think of them but are great at getting other people to like them. "Charming and disarming" comes to mind. They can also be those asterisk-types but you don't hate them for it.
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suave: (especially of a man) charming, confident, and elegant.
debonair: (of a man) confident, stylish, and charming
So, in-a-word: no
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Actually, based on those definitions, if you were charming, confident, and elegant but NOT stylish, you would be suave (only); and if you were confident, stylish, and charming but NOT elegant, you would be debonair only. It's an exercise left to the reader how you can be stylish but not elegant, or elegant but not stylish.
My take on it: Daniel Boone was stylish but not elegant (he was debonair, perhaps), whereas Abraham Lincoln was elegant but not stylish (he was suave, I reckon).
So who is/was suave AND debonair (both stylish AND elegant)? Edgar Allan Poe, Bret Harte (the writer, not the pugilist), et al.
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What? Did Apple replace Swift already....? Or is this the new name for Angular? Am I on CodeProject?? 
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Cary Grant was suave and debonair; ie a good guy.
James Mason was merely suave; ie a bad guy.
You really should pay attention when watching North By NorthWest.
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Suave comes from spanish: suave = soft, and by extensión, delicate or "good behavior"
Ella es suave = She is delicate
On the other hand, debonair comes from french. De bon air = from good air. By extensión from good family.
In english the two words have derived into a similar meanings but the origins were very different. So, you can use them separately or at the same time and the meaning is different in each case.
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Stupid questions like this can be readily resolved by consulting a dictionary.
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Really, I can't think of a less appropriate venue to ask this question. What do code monkeys know about "suave" or "debonair"?
"Buddha! Zeus! God! One of you guys, DO something!"
--Professor Farnsworth
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Good point; I must have been in your cups when I asked it.
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I think everyone is ignoring the preface of the question. I've never in my life heard the two combined into one sentence. Always seperate. So using the two together to me would would be equivalent to making fun of someone for thinking he is suave or debonair. 
modified 5-Nov-14 15:43pm.
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Got a new job that's completely back in the VS world and I've already been on here a few times. So thought I'd post to the lounge!
See what's new. ![Beer | [beer]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif)
I still see some familiar handles. 
http://www.twitter.com/otherjimmie
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