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We might be using the rolleyes  for irony. For sure, it would kill the subtlety, and is definitely not a 100% match.
I like your mental representation of sarcasm, so I second your proposition of the pitchfork.
(I hope you were not being ironical)
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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There is something rotten in your kingdom of Denmark.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Note: the CP editor is not accepting the links I'm pasting in from the Online Etymology Dictionary: so I am including them as plain text.
Hi Rage,
Really, we'd need two distinct icons to distinguish between sarcasm and irony.
Sarcasm comes from the Greek root meaning "cut/tear-off," and it is most often used with a negative intent, as an insult, as making fun-of in a belittling, or hostile, way, etc.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=sarcasm
Irony can be much more subtle, and its original meaning from the Greek means the simulating of ignorance, or dissembling; in modern use, it often implies a non-negative intent, imho. It can be a form of rhetoric which implies that it is "tongue-in-cheek," or has a "mixed-message," often in a teasing way. Irony can be used with affection.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=irony
How about a pitchfork with sharpened tines dripping blood for "sarcasm," and something less violent for "irony:" a face with hand over mouth, and the eyes rolling-around ?
« I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant
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Steely with less carbon?
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Sweet. Now I can catch up to you on points. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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OriginalGriff wrote: the engineer has been forbidden access to the pole by the people in whose field it sits as they "have a dispute running with BT".
In my parts (at least), there's a degree of eminent domain with respect to the utilities (pole based and otherwise).
I guess living in a place named after a huge fish-imposter has some drawbacks.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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At least with respect to maintenance, Eminent Domain is the wrong term. (Although I wouldn't be surprised if Eminent Domain was occasionally used to get right of way in the first place.) What the utility pole owners (ditto for buried lines) have are easements to the property deeds; where in trade for a one time payment to the property owner at the time they bought an indefinite/irrevocable right to build and maintain a line of poles/wires across the property.
Around here this mostly comes up in the news because it includes the right to cut trees close enough to be a hazard to the lines; and under pressure from regulators to improve uptimes (and unions to reduce post-storm overtime) they decide to widen the width of the tree cut around high voltage distribution lines taking property owners off guard who assumed that the easement only ran as wide as the existing clearcut.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Eminent Domain refers to a government seizure of private property for a public purpose, usually accompanied by a payment to the owner of fair market value, that assessment normally being far less than the true market value. It is, essentially, extortion by the government. Easements, on the other hand, can be expressly granted to a utility by the property owner, often in return for a hefty cash payment, or dedicated by a developer as part of a subdivision plat recorded with the local government. In some cases a utility can claim and enforce a "prescriptive" easement, which is based on the premise that an easement is created and assumed granted when a right of way is openly and notoriously occupied for a period of years without any objection from the property owner.
I nearly had to sue for a prescriptive easement when I rebuilt a power line a couple of years ago. Since the line was built 70 years ago, highways and a town were built under the line, without our permission. Technically, we have the right to require those homes to be torn down, and the roads removed, but that way lies madness. A few bureaucrats tried to block my way, but when I pointed out our prior occupation of the ROW, they backed down. I have documents to prove our ROW, but they weren't as formal back then, and these young punks thought they could ignore them with impunity. The mention of a formal suit for prescriptive rights made them back down pronto! 
Will Rogers never met me.
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Oh dear, hope it sorts itself out quickly, couldn't imagine life without the Internet anymore.
If nothing else we need someone to snigger at whenever a sheep is mentioned 
Alberto Brandolini: The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
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And meanwhile Q&A will be a lot more hostile to newbies. 
Get well soon.
Hope they'll fix it soon.
I hear that TCP/IP over Woolly carriers have quite a good throughput even if they have a somewhat bad response time.
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Nightmare!
Do you not have a decent laptop and a nearby Starbucks (pub?) with wifi? Could be a nice way to spend your days until your internet comes back!
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Here. This might solve your problem: Linky[^] can't be worse than your situation 
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Who's going to answer my CODZ PLZ questions? You need to go over and talk to them people and from the sounds of it you'll need a banjo. clickity[^]
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta
Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead?
Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9.
I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
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Hi All,
Iam New to SSIS and now i want export data by Last Update in Database to flat file
Ex:
In the First update i have imported 5 rows to Database and second update import 5 rows to database. Now in first export i will export data from 1 to 5 to flat file and send export i should fetch data from 6 to 10 and store in flat file Destination.
Can any on e help on this.
Thanks & Regards,
sivakumar
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Member 11105740 wrote: SSIS
Is that that thing in North Africa that everyone's crying out/wailing/lamenting/bitching about?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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No, you're thinking of the fundamentalists from Norf London - Secular State of Islington and Stratford.
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I've always considered Stratford as East London!
Anyways, those guys have nothing on the nutters from Wood Green!
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Before you can start, you must first know the end[^]
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Yesterday, I was laying decking on top of my garage, for the missus to have a roof garden (I'm not working on it today, because it's pissing down with rain).
Whilst screwing down the planking, I dropped a screw through the gap between two of them.
"Aha!" I thought, "At last I get to use my handy-dandy 50c screw-fisher-upper magnet!"
Elated at the thought of finally using an almost-tool for its prescribed purpose, I hurried down the ladder and into the workshop to retrieve said almost-tool.
I was pleased as punch that it performed its task perfectly, "fishing" up the screw. Definitely a fit-for-purpose almost-tool!
I dropped the screw into the screw box, and put the almost-tool down next to it.
... from where it promptly rolled into a gap and under a plank.
What was that song about an old woman swallowing a fly?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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So, tie the screw on a piece of string, ...
Cheers,
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Ah, but it's a functional design, see -- it's strong enough to pick a screw up, but it weighs a lot more than a screw.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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So what did you do? Unplank or leave it?
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