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To have a food fight, one must first have food.
Neither Scotland nor the US have food.
 
I'd rather be phishing!
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As Canada is the repository of Quebec*, you are in no position to say anything about anything.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Hey, it's not just deep fried Mars bars you know.
If I was on death row, my breakfast would be traditional porridge (cooked overnight) and a fine Scottich kipper or 3!
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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A Note (per original thread, not this one):
I noticed two "SPAM or ABUSE" dings for my original post - which was clearly a play on words.
More importantly:
There really is a thing called SPAM.
A post can really contain ABUSE.
Using them for such a comment is a bit of a boy-crying-wolf thing. Sad.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Really? that's awful.
I like a rough and tumble like anyone London born but that sounds cowardly and abusive in itself.
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Ya' see - we love tasty food
Americans will eat anything. Anything. Anything.
Sh*t, if you were selling sautéed raccoons assholes on a stick, Americans would buy them and eat them!
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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There's nothing wrong with English food, if you consider meat boiled to a state of flavorless existence, yet preserving the basic toughness of shoe leather, to be food. My dog won't eat it, but some people might. If starving, or living in the UK or New England. Scots are a different breed - they eat sh*t no sane animal would touch, haggis coming immediately to mind. The most American food that comes to mind is barbeque; so far as I know, no other region or country has developed this style so fully. Here in the Colonies, Southwest cooking is excellent and tasty, and we owe a lot to Mexico for teaching us about seasoning. I'm wondering whether adding a bit of cayenne pepper to a haggis, then slow cooking it over a hickory smoker, might make for a magnificent meal?
Unfortunately, IIRC, it's still illegal to import the basic ingredients for haggis into the US. Perhaps someone outside of our little zone-of-exclusion might try it and post the results... 
Will Rogers never met me.
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no one boils beef anymore unless you are putting cheap meat in a pie, now roast beef, roast pots and 2 veg and a Yorkshire pudding is the king of meals, a dish that requires nothing other than the meat juices and maybe a touch of mustard or horseradish
you do realise that that one of the UK most popular dishes is the curry? not exactly know for blandness and will make your Cajun spices seem a might tame
I think you might find that most Haggis recipes actually contain Cayenne,
as for smoked
smoked-haggis [^]
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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I've never had boiled beef in my life. That was a relic from the war when the populace had very little access to meat and it was often so tough that the only way to make it edible was to boil it.
Now my mum used to boil a whole gammon, but that was far from tasteless. She'd make gravy from the cooking water and serve with new potatoes. Delicious and far from tasteless. When I owned a deli, I would make my own ham in a boiler, the only difference was that the ham leg was in a casing. This is how most ham is made (else it is baked.)
Stewing beef is not the same as boiled beef. The idea being to use a gentle heat to render down fat and connective tissue. Doing this to a good cut of meat really does not work, but with the right cut you end up with something far from tasteless. Any stew that my mum, grandmother or myself made was well seasoned. Nowadays a slow cooker or casserole is used rather than a stew pot. This type of dish is far from unique to Britain (e.g, Bouef Bourgignon) The biggest difference? - the Brits probably substitute beer for the wine. Any stew preserves all the meat juices and flavour and cheap cuts of meat tend to be more full-flavoured.
Lamb (especially mutton) is often prepared in exactly the same way, chicken too, but pork tends not to make great stews or casseroles.
If you've experienced tasteless bolied meat, then you have clearly visited the wrong place and my guess is that any eatery serving such fare would not last in Britain.
Traditionally and after the post war years, Brits have enjoyed meat most typically as roasts. The French used to call us "Les rosbifs" (when not using more aggressive language!). My dinners as a kid were typically Roast on Sunday, cold meat on Monday (from the roast), fish and chips on Friday and a random selection of grilled chops, smoked fish, curry, Spaghetti Bolognese (another non-British dish reliant on stewing beef), burgers spaghetti/cailiflower cheese, etc.. Sunday night was almost always shellfish and salad. Our food was varied and we were not a wealthy family and all was cooked from scratch (no tinned sauces or packaged food. This fare is well represented in restaurants throughout the UK, with many regional variations (the love it or hate it Haggis, Lancashire Hot Pot, Cornish Pasties ...).
I'm all for a bit of fun, but real British food is nothing like it is widely alleged to be. Visitors (to any developed country) are not likely to experience true vernacular food, especially with our globalized economies with the omnipresent big M, KFC, etc., etc.. Even eateries claiming to offer traditional food are all too frequently low-quality/high-price as they don't rely on repeat business. The web has mitigated this, but most tourists hitting the tourist spots in London probably don't consult a guide or plan their food stops.
I cook and cooking is in my blood (my paternal grandmother was in service and my maternal grandfather and uncles were master chefs). Britain has amazing cultural and ethnic diversity. The restaurant business reflects this diversity. It has the widest selection of cheeses of any nation; it has a healthy agricultural climate and produces some of the best beef in the world (Angus and Hereford cattle), Nowhere is much more than an hour from the sea giving, so seafood is widely available. Insulting British food is about as daft as saying "I don't like music!"
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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The design of this site is awesome : it does not even embed a stylesheet. Len and quick. Sometimes, less is more.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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As we all know, liquid nitrogen is one of the two universal solutions to all life problems, but nobody figured out how to apply it in real life until today[^].
Now we wait and see application of CListCtrl in real life.
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Pretty cool.
Life is too shor
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Great find. Can I nominate more than three names for a Liquid Nitrogen challenge ? (Assuming I'll trick them first by using dry ice also ?)
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Looks like he was demonstrating that the temperature of liquid nitrogen (°C or °F) and his IQ are the same.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
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Well he's not hurt due to something called Leidenfrost effect[^]. I heard it for the first time, though I watched Mythbusters episode where they did demonstrate effect it with molten lead. So I wouldn't call that guy stupid 
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Quote from wiki: Canadian chemist Moe Qureshi performed the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge using liquid nitrogen instead of ice-water
I wonder if Qureshi is equivalent to Howard? I still say the guys a fool.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
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In my past life, I used more Liquid Nitrogen then milk (by far). You can get away with some kinds of contacts, via the Leidenfrost effect, certainly. It happened frequently enough. It was used without the least fear or trepidation. And used for a few jokes, too (splashing a bunch on a men's room floor whilst some is sitting upon the thrown).
But should the LN2 linger another second or two, such as a fold in the skin, inside an ear canal, etc., it will cause nasty frostbite very quickly - and kill the skin (much like a 2nd degree burn) very soon after.
The guy really is quite the jerk.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Mladen Janković wrote: Well he's not hurt due to something called Leidenfrost effect[^].
The Leidenfrost effect would only serve to preserve the temperature of the nitrogen, allowing it to do more damage, if left in contact with his (presumably) warmer head -- which it was.
When you "walk on fire", you don't stand still.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mladen Janković wrote: liquid nitrogen is one of the two three universal solutions to all life problems
Don't forget the Bacon!
You looking for sympathy?
You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric
(Page 1788, if it helps)
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That isn't LIN. - first it'd need to be kept in a proper thermos dewer flask to stand any chance of not boiling off immediately. Enough liquid in the metal cotainer he had to not have boiled would have made the container so cold solid CO2 would have condensed out he atmosphere and picking it up would have frozen the sweat on his hands solid - fusing them to container.
Had he poured liquid nitrogen on his head, his hair would have acted as wicks drawing it down and basically freezing the skin off his scalp. Additionally wiping it off would have shattered his hair.
Finally the "steam" would pour downwards as the the cooled air would be denser than that surrounding it - but that could be wind + the image is pretty hard to see.
My guess is he had solid carbon dioxide in there.
Alberto Brandolini: The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
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And the award goes to ... captain obvious 
But thanks for the explanation. 
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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I've seen the the Leidenfrost effect first hand - demoed on the palm of someone's hand. When we where working with high vacuums and needed a cold trap.
The problem with the video is the fact he's pouring it on his hair - this as I said, acts as a wick, which is the same reason why you don't use the back of your hand to demo for "extended"contact, though you can very dip your hand in the stuff very briefly.
I still don't believe the video - it looks like quite a lot hits the ground, this would freeze his feet, plus any trapped under his shirt would definitely freeze him.
Alberto Brandolini: The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
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I'm pretty sure it's fake too (LN2 in hair and clothing is an Oh Elephant Me! moment); but from watching people use it to make icecream I'm pretty sure there's a bit of time between the bucket being cool enough not to immediately boil off on the inside and being cold enough to freeze your hands onto the outside. And if your hands are dry you can briefly handle dry ice without them freezing to it.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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