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You know I was wondering there is so much religion involved in war?
I guess it's easy to make people angry with religion perhaps? And also it's a more powerful motivator than mere profit?
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Super Lloyd wrote: it's easy to make people angry with religion
Vote of 5 for that!
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Super Lloyd wrote: And also it's a more powerful motivator than mere profit?
Perhaps but if they use profit as a motivator they have to share the profit (so less for the persons in charge).
I think profit is a bigger motivator than religion but the people on top use religion so they can keep the profit for themselves and don't have to share it.
In the end it all comes down to either power or money, and very very few "religious leaders" who incite violence actually do it for the religion part.
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Well thought out! 
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It's not religion that causes war, it's evil people. They may use religion as an excuse in order to try to justify their behaviour, but no religion actively encourages such actions.
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Religion helps to encourage groupthink though.
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My question is more "what is religion?".
My definition: religion appears to be a set of beliefs held by a large number of people usually based on some sort of faith in something that is not measurable, using the 'scientific method', and that generally contains ideas that are held as taboo to question within and about the particular religion.
Given my definition, it seems fairly easy to then manipulate a large number of people to do something they would not do outside of this group/collective belief system.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
modified 25-Aug-14 7:25am.
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And with that being said, understand then the frustration of people that have a belief system that DOES encourage thought, discussion and dialogue being continually lumped into 'religion'. If the adherants say, "It's not about religion" they are ridiculed further...
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As far as I am concerned as long as people hold themselves to the golden rule, as much as possible, I don't particularly care what set of beliefs they hold.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Being an Indian, I have been influenced by the sayings of a saint of India, called Swami Vivekananda, who visited the US back in 1893. He said "Religion is the manifestation of the divinity already in man. Religion is the idea which is raising the brute unto man, and man unto God". See here[^].
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Don't for a second think that relious wars aren't spurred on by the promise of profit.
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Infidel. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: spurred on by the promise of profit
Profit, or prophet?
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Super Lloyd wrote: I guess it's easy to make people angry with religion perhaps?
That's completely wrong ! Stop writing nonsense about religion ! Religion DOES NOT make angry.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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No, but it does give people an excuse to be angry over stupid things.
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Joke. Mind the Joke Icon. It was actually a joke, meant to be funny. To be laughed at. A joke.
Joke elaboration: Get angry about someone ranting about people getting angry.
Similar joke examples: "I hate extremists, they should all be shot dead." or "Racism is just like niggers, shouldn't exist".
[Edit] Oh, and did I mention it was a joke ? [/Edit]
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Relax! I missed the joke icon.
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Bceause if god says it's ok, then it's ok I guess.
Come to think of it, the morning agile scrum prayers could benefit from this concept too
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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Quote: You know I was wondering there is so much religion involved in war?
If you are going to get someone to die for your cause, you have to give them a reason. Promising them an "eternal reward" is just one means of doing that.
Money could be another one, but after you get so many followers, the money pot runs dry quickly.
Brent
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The rest of the world is so brutal...
sure would be easier if the world would surrender instead of causing all those innocent deaths... 
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The trouble with people,
is that they want to hear only what they want to hear.
modified 25-Aug-14 7:29am.
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And then the "bad guys" win.
And that doesn't stop the brutality: Look at the Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Pinochet, Franco, Hussein, Mengistu Haile Mariam, (carefully Not Mentioning The War)
Their brutality didn't stop when they had absolute power - if anything it got worse.
Sometimes, you have to stand up and be counted.
You looking for sympathy?
You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric
(Page 1788, if it helps)
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As much as everyone will agree on IS(IS) being the bad guys  ,
Historically speaking "Bad Guys" are defined by the winning  side and then embedded into History
I don't like them because they would like to kill me, but that's just my personal taste.
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The trouble with people,
is that they want to hear only what they want to hear.
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I think the behaviour they have shown so far: kidnapping for ransom, beheading the innocent, attempted genocide, "change to our branch of Islam or die" options, and so forth does kinda indicate "bad guys" regardless of any other position on religion or other beliefs.
Can you image what life would be like in a state rules by these guys?
Regrettably, I can...
You looking for sympathy?
You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric
(Page 1788, if it helps)
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I can too and it's not that hard,
regrettably there are already several of those in our little cozy planet of Earth.
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The trouble with people,
is that they want to hear only what they want to hear.
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