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When bored I entertain myself by going to the Funan Centre[^], ordering a desktop and after all the paperwork is done I ask what bloatware is installed, when they refuse to remove the crap I can cancel the order and walk out in a huff. When I actually need a desktop I go to a small operator who has a bunch of tools for bloatware removal - great people.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Nothing like a good slipstream, too... that's what I use for setting up work PCs now.
The only gotcha is making sure it has networking drivers.
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: When bored I entertain myself by going to the Funan Centre[^], ordering a desktop and after all the paperwork is done I ask what bloatware is installed, when they refuse to remove the crap I can cancel the order and walk out in a huff. When I actually need a desktop I go to a small operator who has a bunch of tools for bloatware removal - great people.
You are a right prick, aren't you.
I reckon I went to the Funan Centre in late 1999 or early 2000. By Christ I walked away with a very large collection of software at the time.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Michael Martin wrote: You are a right prick, aren't you
True, there is no value in growing old gracefully.
Around 2000 stuff from Funan could be considered value, not any more, they shut down the pirates and it is nearly all big operators in small shops. There are a couple with 4-5 outlets in the building, weird way of setting up.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Hi ... I am new to a software company after my b.tec.... 
Can i any help me to know how to be a good developer ??
I am using .net framework now ...!! 
can anyone tell me about the latest technology in it ?? and how can i improve my Career in software developing ?
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0. Learn
1. Learn
2. Never forget point # 0 & 1
3. When in doubt, refer to point # 2
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I think he is not aware about if,for,while,for each...
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad
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Practice.
Forget "latest technology" for a while, and concentrate on getting experience in the basics of what you are employed to do. A university education does not teach you how to code in the real world: so take the time to learn and get experience. Then when you are ready start looking at other technologies, but get some firm groundwork under you first - a year or so at least, and listen when people who have been doing it for year talk.
Let's face it: in a year or so all the "latest technologies" will have been supplanted by the new "latest thing" anyway!
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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OriginalGriff wrote: university education does not teach you how to code
You should tell me this 20 years before!
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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I can tell you that the only reason I got that university education is that I found I needed the piece of paper to get my foot in the door. What got me the job was what I had learned in spite of the university.
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Makes lots of mistakes...to learn what does not work!
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Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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As we all learnt from watching Karate Kid, it's a simple case of Wax On / Wax Off. Everything you do [think of it as Ying] has an effect [the Yang] that is rarely what we want [Tong Tiddlie I Poe].
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: Wax Off.
Fnarrr fnarr.
Alberto Brandolini: The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.
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Sidharth R wrote: Can i any help me to know how to be a good developer ?
By using fewer smileys and less punctuation, you may not improve your development skills, but you will appear to others to be less of a 14 year-old and possibly be taken more seriously.
Sidharth R wrote: can anyone tell me about the latest technology in it
Microsoft can ... head over to Microsoft[^] and read.
Sidharth R wrote: how can i improve my Career in software developing
Ask questions. specific ones. If you are working somewhere where you do code reviews, listen to advice, and try to understand why changes are being made. If not, learn from other people's code. If you don't understand it, ask. don't be embarrassed if you don't know something, or aren't sure of the best way to do something. Most developers will be pleased to offer their advice (but try to make sure you're asking the right sort of developer!)
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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_Maxxx_ wrote: try to make sure you're asking the right sort of developer!
And therein lies the problem: You don't generally know which sort you are asking until it's too late!
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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OriginalGriff wrote: You don't generally know which sort you are asking until it's too late!
You're asking the right sort of developer if the answer they give is "let's talk about it over a pint"
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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Software Development means solving a problem by using languages/tools/technology not learning something. Learn the languages/tools/technology if you need to solve those problem.
Have a nice career ahead!
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Sanjay K. Gupta wrote: Software Development means solving a problem by using languages/tools/technology not learning something. Learn the languages/tools/technology if you need to solve those problem.
I'd have to disagree with that.
Software development is a process, a way of thinking that is implemented in languages, using tools and technologies. To a huge extent, the languages/tools/technology is irrelevant and can easily be replaced.
You can be as proficient as possible in using the tools (such as VS, SSMS, et al.) but be incapable of producing good software unless you have the thinking part down pat.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Sidharth R wrote: how can i improve my Career in software developing ?
Find a challenging project that is beyond your current competence, stick with it and don't give up when things get tough.
Use every resource you can - books, google and CodeProject.
Implement the project and write an article on it for CoceProject.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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GuyThiebaut wrote: Implement the project and write an article on it for CoceProject.
A quick look at Wiki[^]...
They have a CocaineProject now? 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Somebody, and I don't remember who, said that 'the definition of success is when you don't know whether you are working or playing anymore'.
As a newbie programmer, you will likely be confronted with tasks, and languages, that you don't know about. At this stage you are working for 'them'.
You should, in your own time, choose a language and play. A rewarding choice for this is Python if you are new. You should nurture your skills and enjoyment, and take the lessons back to work.
Eventually, there should be no difference between your playing and your working, except that at work somebody is telling you things and paying you.
I am about to start learning Lua at home, because I only heard of it last week.
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LOL that's right, start them in Python and let them get spoiled by ease of use and an interpreter...wait 'til they get a load of C#
"Seize the day" - Horace
"It's not what he doesn't know that scares me; it's what he knows for sure that just ain't so!" - Will Rogers, said by him about Herbert Hoover
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