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If you're looking for a cold shower, I'll suggest MS reverses course again and discontinues the classic desktop completely. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: I'll suggest MS reverses course again and discontinues the classic desktop completely.
Well, wouldn't the Linux world rejoice then, haha!
Marc
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Yeah my first thought was "all of the above" and I have not even started using w8.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Windows 8 is perfect for novices and experts, the middle suffers.
It is amazing to see people furiously clicking through menus instead of learning a few key combos.
Try Win+X anywhere.
Win+X,U,U[^] for those who doesn't have an ATX power supply
Try Win+<1..9,0> on the desktop (Win7, too)
Win+R (Win7, too)
Win+arrows (Win7, too)
Win+[Shift]+Tab (Win7, too)
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The only people that suffer with windows 8 are self proclaimed computer experts, people in the middle have no trouble with windows 8, not does anything that has the ability to learn something.
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Entity Framework will be gone shortly
SharePoint is a permanent service
Windows 8 is a permanent paradigm shift
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Colborne_Greg wrote: Entity Framework will be gone shortly
Are you serious about EF? Version 6 was released not long ago and 7 is on the way.
TOMZ_KV
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Tomz_KV wrote: need maintenance from time to time without the development environment - Visual InterDev
I'm confused.. why can't you continue to use the old IDE? Was it cloud based? Did they revoke the license to it? Did you lose the installation media?
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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Lost the installation media. It is not available in the MSDN subscription download. Thanks,
TOMZ_KV
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Did you try to find a downloadable version?
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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Unfortunately no. I googled it and followed a number of links but they led to nowhere.
TOMZ_KV
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Have you asked around to see if someone can give or sell you their old installation media for it? I probably used to have a copy at my old job I'd have just sent you, but its long gone now.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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I did but not extensively. Since I do not develop any new functionality but only do "fixes", I have been ok with using VS 2012. Thanks for your suggestions.
TOMZ_KV
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Tomz_KV wrote: What is the next to discontinue? SharePoint, Entity Framework, Windows 8?
All of the above. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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Microsoft promotes SharePoint heavily. I did some serious development in it with InfoPath. Unfortunately, InfoPath is gone. Have not heard anything about the future of SharePoint.
TOMZ_KV
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Just joking. 
SharePoint is a good platform but InfoPath left a lot to be desired, namely since it stored all attachments in the form there was a limit to the number/size of attachments that could be stored.
Another problem came if you changed the form, all prior saved forms needed to be saved with the new prototype form.
Additionally all workflows started with the previous forms were broken. It was never something to be used in production.
You say it is gone now. Good riddance. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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Micro$oft realized InfoPath was broken and had to terminate them.
It is interesting that they pulled the plug on InfoPath before they had a replacement in place. Let's see what they come up with next. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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Just finally reading my email for last week...
I'm just curious about this thread: Why are complaining about classic ASP after it had been replaced by ASP.NET twelve years ago?
Still, it's still available for use. In fact, it should be available for the next eight years, as its current lifetime is based on the tenth anniversary of Windows 8.
Christopher Reed
"The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."
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I was not complaining but just stating the difficulty of maintaining it. asp.net is a nice replacement but Microsoft did not provide a way to upgrade asp to asp.net. Basically it is "discontinued".
TOMZ_KV
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Actually, in the Page directive for a Web Form page, you can set the AspCompat attribute to true. This provides support for VB6 components within a Web Form. Essentially, you could add a Page directive to an ASP page with AspCompat set to true and your classic ASP runs through the ASP.NET engine once you change the file extension from .asp to .aspx.
Granted, this doesn't help in switching over to ASP.NET, but it's a starting point for moving a classic ASP site to ASP.NET.
Regardless, classic ASP has not been "discontinued". It is still a viable solution in its own right, at least for the next eight years.
Now, if we're talking about discontinued platforms, let's talk about FoxPro....
Christopher Reed
"The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."
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Thanks for the great insight!
TOMZ_KV
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Was watching the France game last night.....Does anyone know when they added the Red and Blue bits to their flag?
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