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Satan is easier to negotiate with than a bank.
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Well, you could try FleaBay[^].
But...You can't, it seems[^]
Consider slightly older cars than 2012 - if you look around, you should find something in the 5+ years area that is considerably cheaper: because the other mug punters owners have already swallowed the depreciation.
My current car cost me ~$2K, was 10 years old, one previous owner, and had 70K miles. Now in it's third year of my ownership, and it has cost me about $1.2K in repairs on top of the usual running costs.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Mike Hankey wrote: So I went to a dealership devil ... got a bad case of sticker shock.
FTFY 
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You could try contacting one of them Nigerian princes. I hear they like giving out money.
What is this talk of release? I do not release software. My software escapes leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake.
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My truck needed replaced last year.
Ended up with a 2009 but still paid more than I would have liked.
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This[^] seems relevant. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Crab Soup: £2.50
Kung Po Chicken: £4.50
Missing One Container at delivery: riceless.
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LOL! Indeed! 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Stealing that and posting it on FB!
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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Which, with a certain amount of irony, is where I stole it from. Ahh the circle of life
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Keith Barrow wrote: circle of life
Thanks, now I will have Elton John buzzing in my ear for the rest of the day 
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Earphones, AC/DC, problem solved!
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Keith Barrow wrote: Missing One Container at delivery: riceless.
Seriously, from a Chinese takeaway. Have they no pride?
I pretty much eat rice with every meal, except breakfast because I get croissants at the local super store.
Otherwise I would be eating rice with every meal.
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JimmyRopes wrote: Otherwise I would be eating rice with every meal
This also limits the wear off of your toilet seat.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Rage wrote: This also limits the wear off of your toilet seat.
What toilet seat? Squat toilets are still used in this part of the world.
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I don't know what word he is suppose to have used. All the Newspapers are saying he said N*****. I have never seen a word spelt like that before. It's not spelt like that in the Oxford English Dictionary, though give it 20 years and I'm sure it will be. 
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South Park[^]
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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He said Nissan? I'm not surprised he bleeped it out. He hates Nissan.
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I've had to google this, turns out he was doing eeny meeny miney moe, which does indeed contain the n-word:
Warning contains mumbled offesive language[^]
79% Of people who vote don't think he should be sacked, sounds very like The Mirror is puffing a story about someone who works for rival newspapers.
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I've got to agree with you, or was that was your sig I was reading? 
One day I aspire to having a signature.
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Keith Barrow wrote: I've had to google this, turns out he was doing eeny meeny miney moe, which does indeed contain the n-word
The way I learned it was "eeny meeny miney moe catch a tiger by the toe".
I suppose political correctness is older than I thought. 
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I think the version I most heard when growing up was "catch a tinker by the toe".
Presumably that is out of fashion too as tinker is a politically incorrect name for a gypsy.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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I'm 48 and that's what I learned. I do live in Atlanta, GA so maybe it was adopted earlier here. My grandmother used the word once but not with vehemence, she was describing a doll my aunt had as a child. It was her "N***** doll" and from the picture I saw, it was a black cloth rag doll. They are from rural northern Alabama and I was her Georgia Cracker.
A Georgia Cracker was explained as the driver of a mule train who cracked his whip to get the mules moving.
My younger brother called me the N-word once and got one of the worst spankings of his life.
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MarkTJohnson wrote: I'm 48 and that's what I learned. I do live in Atlanta, GA so maybe it was adopted earlier here.
I'm significantly older than 48 and grew up in New York City so it was euphemized long before you would have heard it.
I had heard the other version on the streets but in my household tiger was the acceptable version and using the other version would have resulted in a sever punishment.
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Yeah it's witch hunt bullshit. It was mumbled over in a non broadcast clip that Clarkson explicitly asked not be the cut that got used because it sounded like he said nigger, when (he claims at least) he didn't. And the version of eeny meeny he learnt as a lad probably had it in.
There's being offensive for the sake of it, and then there's airbrushing out history and pretending that the past wasn't as it was, and in this case it's the Mirror doing the latter and not Clarkson the former.
It was 'tigger' when I was growing up which is pretty obviously a substitution when you grow up and learn about it.
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