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I finally took the plunge and upgraded to 8.1. After getting rid of Metro, it's actually not that bad. File manager is a lot better than Windows 7 file manager. Of coarse, there's tonnes of things that don't work properly (hibernation, large fonts, etc.), but that's just the par of the coarse when you have a Microsoft OS.
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ed welch wrote: [Windows 8] File manager is a lot better than Windows 7 file manager.
Blasphemy! 
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Windows 7 removed the copy and paste buttons, and in Windows 8.1 they are back.
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...two buttons you don't really need is "a lot better"? 
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Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Two buttons... which I use *all* the time, so yes they are important.
But also, lots of other stuff, the ui just seems to be organised much better
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You use buttons "all" the time when Ctrl + C/V is all you need?
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Lloyd Atkinson wrote: You use buttons "all" the time when Ctrl + C/V is all you need?
True.
And if he doesn't want to use his other hand, then after selecting files and/or folders, right-click and select the "Copy" menu item, followed by right-clicking in the destination location and selecting the "Paste" menu item. It only takes one hand and there is no need to navigate the mouse to a button location.
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you need two hands to activate the shortcut, so you have to take your hand off the mouse and that slows you down. Really there's no reason no to have a toolbar button. It's not like there's no room
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Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V are one-handed (left-hand) shortcuts unless you have particularly small hands. Pinky on Ctrl, forefinger on C then V. I can do Ctrl-N left-handed without discomfort.
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it's still handy to have the toolbar buttons though
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I just use ctrl-ins/shift-ins with my right hand (I drive my mouse with my left hand to avoid carpal tunnel issues). Thankfully, they haven't take away all the keyboard shortcuts... yet.
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I'd forgotten about those.
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Remember, windows is for the masses, not just the power users. Otherwise we would all just be called users.
Personally I actually enjoy a lot of windows 8 (Except NewUI which I find stupid on my dev machine!) But they have improved a lot of system functionality. Saying that though, I really really miss the prettiness of Windows 7. I want my transparency options back.
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They don't work in all cases. It depends on what you are viewing. I have run into situations where Copy/Paste work when invoked via Edit on the Menu bar, right clicking and select from the Context list and Ctl C/V with standard vanilla text situations or only one or two of the three work or none work. There have been instances of wanting to copy a few lines (such as a tip) from a web page where none of them worked and I end up going to the "source" and copying from there.
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I'm more impressed by the improved disk I/O performance, and progress display personally.
Hadn't even noticed those buttons.
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See post above...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Have you heard of Crtl+C & Ctrl+V ??? Unless you have only one hand, You should not need buttons.
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I don't surf one-handed...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Sorry replied on the wrong comment. Meant for Ed. Newb mistake.
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We've all done it!
(Not "surf one handed", you understand...)
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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OK if you have a keyboard, kind of difficult on a touch screen
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ed welch wrote: After getting rid of Metro
How did you do that?
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Yes, I am also VERY interested in getting rid of Metro. If I can do that I might actually re-install Windows 8.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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That's easy. Just use Start8[^]. I also use a few registry hacks to make my Win8 look like Win7. Here's[^] what my Win8 task bar looks like.
/ravi
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