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Erudite_Eric wrote: Just when did science decide it can totally detach itself from reality?
It the middle-ages. Back then they started to write books based on other books and imagination, without even stepping out of the door...
That was the beginning of the modern day laboratory...
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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Erudite_Eric wrote: the average French guy, diet rich in cheese, meat, red wine and Gauloise cigarettes
They aren't called "cheese eating surrender monkeys" for nothing you know! 
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Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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This isn't science; this is the Daily Fail[^].
If a week ever passes when that bunch of idiots don't come up with something new that they claim causes cancer, then you'll know the world's about to end.
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Oh, I dunno - they haven't claimed that Diana causes cancer.
But I suspect they think she cured it... 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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I am waiting to see an article how eating is the main cause of cancer. After all everybody who had it ate and drank water. We should stop doing these right away !
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Argonia wrote: I am waiting to see an article how eating is the main cause of cancer.
You aren't far wrong. Basically doing anything increases the chances of Cancer and that includes eating, drinking breathing etc.
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Regretably, you aren't the fist to come up with this idea[^] 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Cough cough[^] must get that checked out.
Erudite_Eric wrote: Ah, highest life expectancy in Europe.
If you ignore Switzerland. Or Iceland. Or Spain. Or Andorra.
Also: Daily Mail. Everything either causes or cures cancer. Quite often the doing both in the same edition.
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Keith Barrow wrote: If you ignore Switzerland. Or Iceland. Or Spain. Or Andorra.
Where meat and cheese is also eaten in large quantities. 
In fact I was particularly thinking about the South West French, who have a very rich and fatty diet, and yet a higher than national average for life expectancy.
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The main cause of cancer is to be alive, there are no known cases of dead people getting cancer. The logic is impeccable.
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Erudite_Eric wrote: According to the latest alarmists science out today:
It's not according to the scientist or his study, it is according to the Daily Mail headline.
What they actually said is slightly different.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Erudite_Eric wrote: Right, so the average French guy, diet rich in cheese, meat, red wine and Gauloise cigarettes, is 4 times as likely to get cancer and die is he?
Ah, highest life expectancy in Europe.
The average French guy actually drags the national average down further than quite a lot of other European countries. The average French woman, on the other hand, does have one of the better life expectancies.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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When you realize how many hormones and chemicals are in the food you eat, you don't need science or anyone else to tell you it can cause cancer. Common sense should be enough.
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RyanDev wrote: When you realize how many hormones and chemicals
Not in Europe there aren't. Our meat is hormone free and we eat organic veg.
Anyway, its BS science, clearly, there is no correlation between eating cheese and cancer. Its just plain junk science.
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Quote: Not in Europe there aren't. Our meat is hormone free and we eat organic veg.
I believe they are allowed to still use some chemicals but you are right, Europe definitely does a better job than the US in blocking harmful chemicals from the food.
Quote: there is no correlation between eating cheese and cancer
Not true. When there are steroids in the cheese, then yes, it can cause cancer.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Actually there is a 6-8% amount of hormones allowed in the meat if I am not wrong.
I read it in the local newspapers and if you trust them its true.(I don't)
Anyway to die old is a curse itself we should enjoy the life while we have it (and the war hasen't started yet) and screw the cancer.
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Quite a bit, if not most, of dietary science isn't science; it's people trying to prove their pet theories using weak correlations.
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Why can't both be right? That just means that the life expectancy of the average French-person should be 120 years.
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Interesting, a smarter version of my neighbor.
Is he a relative of DD?
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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Some apologist will have to blame Microsoft for this. 
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