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Member 10214013 wrote: But ah, how does one sell software these days?
Same way one sells a car. Same way software was sold in 90s (social media is just another media.)
Member 10214013 wrote: I tried to do business with MS, they made the right noises for a while but, no, turns out they were just kicking the tires. And really, I'm just not a Microsoft kind of guy.
The most likely way to succeed at sales is to have someone that is actually a salesman do the selling. And if you have a really good salesman then you will have sales.
And none of that of course has anything to do with being a good programmer.
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I once read somewhere (but I don't remember who said it) that, if people know you they will listen to you, if people trust you they will buy from you.
You will still need to be out there where people can see you (even if it's just digitally).
You will still have to sell a sales team on your product before they can sell it for you.
Unless someone sees an opportunity that your product provides for them to make money.
Try to get people talking about you and your product (good, bad or indifferent).
modified 31-Jan-14 18:17pm.
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Kanye is threatening...[^] (image)
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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He's got my vote to leave! 
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I hope he doesn't end up in Kenya.
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[ ^]
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d@nish wrote: I hope he doesn't end up in Kenya.
I hope he does. 
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No! That would be worst punishment for being anagram for this name.
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[ ^]
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Please do and don't let the door hit you on the way out!
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Hi folks,
I've spent the last eight months working on a responsive framework as I wanted an alternative to the ones that I saw out on the interwebs.
Here it is.
http://responsivebp.com/[^]
We use it at work for every site now and I've got a bit of pick-up in the wild (mostly within the Umbraco community) but no matter what I do I can't seem to get it really noticed. I've written up comprehensive docs and tweeted the crap out of it too.
Most people just seem to want to jump on the Bootstrap (bloated, buggy) bandwagon or worse still that weird Semantic-UI framework that to me makes absolutely no sense. (Why make divs look like buttons?)
I find it very frustrating and at times I wonder whether to keep going on it as it's a hell of a lot of work for one guy or just throw in the towel.
The code is lightweight, good and well tested also. It hasn't let us down at work yet and has saved us tons of development time.
How would you go about getting it noticed? Should I bother, am I simply wasting my time?
Any advice is welcome.
Thanks
JimBob SquarePants
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It would seem logical to me that one way to publicize your framework is to write an article for CodeProject about it, talk about its advantages, and give concrete examples of them. Discuss your goals, and strategy, in creating the FrameWork.
“But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.
“Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.”
“How do you know I'm mad?” said Alice.
“You must be," said the Cat, or you wouldn't have come here.” Lewis Carroll
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It's like dating; if you've got a girl friend all the women want you and if you don't have a girl friend none of them want you.
People resist change, I tried pushing C++ years ago at a large company I worked at wrote classes, taught classes, and tutored but no one would use it. But later everyone adopted it and it became the language of choice.
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I disappeared for a while, once again. -_- I don't know how often I'll be around. I know I'm not entirely familiar with everyone, even after all these years, but you may have seen some of my posts. Just wanted to say HI AGAIN, CP!
I've finally stepped into the real world of development. It's about time. It only took about 15 years, from the time I was about 12 years old. 
djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem
Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.
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Welcome back... are you on parole now, or did you serve your full sentence? 
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The sentence begins now as he has to work with incompetent managers, clueless top management and brain-dead users.
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Vivic wrote: incompetent managers, clueless top management and brain-dead users.
You named only three, but there are four horsemen of the apocalypse. Who is the fourth and worst to be revealed last?
Edit: It must be the harebrained customer who puts the entire project at stake for some impossible requirement (Which one of the other three has promised to deliver. A promise you have to keep somehow.)
Just had that yesterday.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
I hold an A-7 computer expert classification, Commodore. I'm well acquainted with Dr. Daystrom's theories and discoveries. The basic design of all our ship's computers are JavaScript.
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CDP1802 wrote: Who is the fourth and worst to be revealed last?
Marketing.
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Vivic wrote:
The sentence begins now as he has to work with incompetent managers, clueless top management and brain-dead users a job.
Why use lots of words when only a few say the same thing?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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LoL. You couldn't be more correct. But I will say that the people I work with here are actually very knowledgeable. I haven't met someone yet who doesn't know what's going on. They're very straightforward. Then again, the entire company only consists of about 45 employees, IT or otherwise.
djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem
Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.
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One of those eureka moments occurred to me today. I needed to trawl through a rather heavily recursive xml file. While there weren't too many element names involved, they were sufficiently recursive enough to make it really horrible to debug in a recursive method. For sure, it worked but it didn't sit comfortably with me. It was then I recalled some XPath code I prototyped a couple of years ago. I opened the project and it occurred to me that XPath could actually simplify things for me. A couple of hours later I replaced my code with far easier to read path-like syntax. It didn't eliminate the recursion but appending new element names using subscripts just really made more sense in this case and it was a breeze to identify exactly where I was in the file.
I'm not advocating XPath over any other strategy to process xml files but to this humble developer, it delivered far more maintainable code. Now that I think of it, there's another method in our app which processes some of the worst xml files I've ever come across. We're talking about 300 types of element some of them with many attributes as well. XPath might just simplify that as well. To the folks who put the XPath concept together, I thank you.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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Well, congratulations, and I look forward to reading your article on XPath here on CP ! cheers, Bill
“But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.
“Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.”
“How do you know I'm mad?” said Alice.
“You must be," said the Cat, or you wouldn't have come here.” Lewis Carroll
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I'm not so sure about that Bill but thanks for the endorsement. I might put something together as a snippet for the xml-related forum. I tell you, buddy, XPath really works rather well.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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I look forward to reading your article on XPath, and recursive XML files, here on CP !
“But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.
“Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.”
“How do you know I'm mad?” said Alice.
“You must be," said the Cat, or you wouldn't have come here.” Lewis Carroll
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Sorry but XPath is just horrible. The best way is to do a File.ReadAllText and then do all sorts to String operations.
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[ ^]
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It's short for psychopath, isn't it?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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