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It is indeed 2nd hand. Its the former Soviet navy carrier Baku (Kiev class carrier) that they laid up and eventually sold to India. The INS Viraat in the photo is ex-Royal Navy ship HMS Hermes.
If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can.
“We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone
"The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone
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They have huge social issues, rampant poverty, and a pathetic educational system for the masses, yet they have the money for an aircraft carrier. What a sick world.
(and, no, I'm not meaning to single out India.)
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: They have huge social issues, rampant poverty, and a pathetic educational system
for the masses, yet they have the money for an aircraft carrier. What a sick
world.
I dunno Marc, your description fit a lot of places, including the USA. 
I know what you meant though.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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S Houghtelin wrote: I dunno Marc, your description fit a lot of places, including the USA.
Yes, that's why I said I wasn't singling out India.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: Yes, that's why I said I wasn't singling out India.
Yes, that's why I said I know what you meant though. 
Your original post was sad and unfortunately true.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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I guarantee you if the money had been spent by their government directly on these issues or even handed out to the poor all of the issues would remain exactly in the same state they are today. No change what so ever.
Care to disagree?
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Mike Mullikin wrote: Care to disagree?
At first I thought, no I don't care to disagree, that you're right. Then I thought, well, you know, what if you took that money and directed it to a specific community, provided better housing, medical services, and education? How would that impact that community and how would it ultimately contribute to a wealthier nation? It's hard to tell. Then again, building an aircraft carrier and all the infrastructure to operate it obviously puts money in people's pocket some way or other, but it seems so...indirect. Ultimately, the question to ask people is, would you like your taxes going to an aircraft carrier, or would you like your taxes invested in your local economy? But then again, taxes didn't pay the bill, deficit spending did, which has its own ramifications. Argh. Complicated issues.
Marc
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All good stuff...
Also consider the fact that federal governments rarely pick one community and give them the royal treatment because that excludes other deserving communities. Ultimately the money always gets spent on broad programs that are so watered down they are ineffective.
For India buying a war ship from Russia also kind of sucks because they don't get any of the economic advantages of the manufacturing, spares, munitions, etc... In the US, as wasteful as our defense spending seems (is?) at least the vast majority of the money ultimately goes into our economy. If/when we were to make the drastic (90%?) cuts to put our defense spending in line with reality - the hit to our broader economy will be catastrophic.
IMHO - The question for India is: Do we really want/need an aircraft carrier and if so, what are we willing to sacrifice to get it?
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Unfortunately, Marc, the decisions are being made 'high up' by the enlightened ones. A common man's opinions aren't going to matter. 
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: A common man's opinions aren't going to matter.
Now I wonder how feasible it'd be to start a common man's political party - oh, wait a minute! 
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Does this mean that the US Navy is going to out-source for sailors to man their own ships?
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Does this mean that the US Navy is going to out-source for sailors to man their own ships?
Eventually, who knows? After all, we "outsourced" a lot of the Iraq war to the private sector.
Marc
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Not at all. The contract sailors would keep looking for the hill at the end of the ship...
Charlie Gilley
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“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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This is interesting to me, because I just bought an aircraft carrier too. I wonder if I got as good of a deal as they did. Maybe I'm having buyer's remorse now. I mean when you drop $500 million on your very own aircraft carrier you want to know you got the best one and the best deal. Hmmmm... where'd I put that receipt?
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Yesterday i brought her her new laptop on which i installed Windows 8.1. (She had XP till then)
The first question was:
"Does this Website still work like before?"
i smiled 
if(this.signature != "")
{
MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature);
}
else
{
MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found");
}
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Quote: "Does this Website still work like before?"
She has a point. Windows 8.1 comes with the beta of Web 3.0.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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And a rattle, a teething ring and a trial pack of Huggies...
Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers
--- Serious Sam
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I don't have Windows 8 on any machines however I have watched some tutorials and am aware that webbrowsers in metro mode do not(or did not) have flash enabled on them - so using a browser in panel mode as opposed to desktop mode may mean that a website does not work like before.
However this may have been fixed.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Quote: However this may have been fixed.
We hope, but I guess not...
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Is enabling Flash really considered to be a fix?
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HobbyProggy wrote: "Does this Website still work like before?"
Which explains the push to make our desktop experience just like the browser experience. 
Marc
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Doesn't explain it to me. It's great to have the grandparents onboard, but the younger generation is a much bigger user pool and they don't need a browser experience to use their devices.
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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HobbyProggy wrote: "Does this Website still work like before?"
Your Grandma likes The Code Project????  
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Ahahaha that grandma is a professional developer 
Watch out what your are saying, she's watching you
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< rant >
Can someone tell me why, when you tell users to do things like:
- open windows Explorer
- in the screen the appears, navigate to folder "x"
- Run Word, click on "Open" and navigate to your document.
and then they act like deer in headlights, they almost always say "well I'm not a techie/compter expert, etc..." in a sarcastic tone??
When the mechanic tells them to check their oil in their car, do they say "well I'm not a mechanic/car expert"?
Sheesh. Is it too much to expect someone who uses a computer/car/appliance on a regular basis, to actually know something about what they're using?
< /rant >
Thank you for your time. We now return you to your regularly scheduled hell.....
-EM
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