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I seem to be in a minority not caring about governments spying on me, but I read in the paper this morning that somebody had worked out that his LG television was recording his viewing habits and sending the information back to LG - seemingly for targeting advertising.
So, when you change channel that gets logged allegedly. This does concern me - as we enter an age where everything is connected and getting smarter devices are feeding back your habits for corporate use. Your phone does it, supermarkets do it and now your TV does it. That I think is one step too far...
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Quote: That I think is one step too far
If you aren't doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about.
Nice sweater by the way. It looks good on you.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: If you aren't doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about.
My usual response to that is, "So, you won't mind if the police show up without a warrant and start rummaging through your closets, inspecting your sock drawer and making copies of your computer hard drives. I mean, if you aren't doing anything wrong...."
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As long as they fold my clothes while they are at it. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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If the executives at LG had the power to invade my home and look in my sock drawer I'd be worried about the spying. As it stands now, if I catch an executive of LG looking through my sock drawer I could probably get away with shooting him.
However, the police have a long history of violating basic civil rights - so no sock drawer for them.
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That depends on your definition of 'wrong'.
The problem is, first and foremost, it is a violation of the 4th Amendment in the US.
If the gov't suddenly decides that owning books is 'wrong', or having cats is wrong, or that more than one computer means you have too much money, so they'll come take one of the computers, and garnish your wages..
Are you still ok with it then?
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You missed the joke icon, I believe.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I missed it too.
Sorry =)
Chris
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>If you aren't doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about.
You would have been a model citizen in a communist country.
We detested people like you.
Chris
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When your hand does it, then WORRY! 
speramus in juniperus
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When your toilet does it?
Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer)
www.simonshugar.co.uk
"If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil
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Let's call it what it is: Stalking
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It's OK, because it sends your data to the Korean government, and they can't do anything with it.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: It's OK, because it sends your data to the Korean government
Um. North? South? Or both? Because one of them I'd be worried about! 
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Well...... they might not be able or willing to use it directly, but they can do worse... they can sell it to the Chinese....
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Rob Philpott wrote: sending the information back to LG
How?
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http://doctorbeet.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/lg-smart-tvs-logging-usb-filenames-and.html#comment-form
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Just don't connect it to the internet, or, configure your router to not allow out-going connections to LG. You can use fiddler to find the ip to block.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: don't connect it to the internet
Mine isn't. And the cable is connected through an ancient VCR; the TV stays set to channel 4. 
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Without out-going connections, I probably wouldn't be able to watch Netflix, Youtube, etc. on the TV. Those so-called "smart" functions are a big reason I bought the thing in the first place. Bummer.
-- Will
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MTWill wrote: Without out-going connections, I probably wouldn't be able to watch Netflix, Youtube, etc. on the TV.
You can still do that stuff, but to avoid the snooping that the TV does, you merely have to configure your router to disallow outgoing connections to IPs that aren't Netflix, youtube, etc. It's really not that hard. I bet if you googled it, you could find someone that's already done it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Well it's a little scumbaggy but why is corporate use worse than government use?
They're just corporations, what are they going to do, at worst? Make some money?
Governments can make you disappear.
</tinfoilhat>
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Um.
In the early 90's Pepsi had the 7th biggest fleet of submarines in the world: 17 of the buggers...
(The whole Pepsi Navy was 10 commercial ships, 17 submarines, a cruiser, a frigate and a destroyer. In theory, these were scrapped, but...you've heard of the Cola Wars?  )
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Anything the corporations collect about you is freely available to anybody claiming to be from "the government" or willing to pay them for it.
To be honest, I'm actually less worried about our (US) government having that information. There's laws that define what they can and can't do that we citizens can influence. If they overstep them, we get to hold their feet to the figurative fire -- the current flap with the NSA is a good example of this.
Corporations, on the other hand, get to define their own behaviors that are backed with the force of (US) law -- they're called policies. They're allowed to change them, users have no influence over what the policies are, and the companies generally give themselves permission to change their policies at any time and without any notification to the users. Worse, users have no resource unless the company has violated its own policy and hasn't gotten around to changing it yet. Corporations with my data are far scarier than governments.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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