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Going by your profile picture, yes.
speramus in juniperus
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Don't judge a book by its underwear, they make me feel sexy 
If we're going by profile pictures, at least I don't have a child molester in mine!
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I should change it, but then I wouldn't be me.
speramus in juniperus
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Please... I am in portugal..
I can tell you that catching a portuguese woman isnt easy...
Easier is catching a germany's woman
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Especially in the Algarve!
Tuga(-Canadiano) para sempre. :P
-EM
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*gushing*
If only she wasn't my neighbors' daughter
*trying to look if she is wearing underwear now*
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"If they knew how much money i steal everyday....ups how good politician i am "
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
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Yeah You Are Right Man 
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"Stephen Fry's new haircut; is it really as Fabulous as he thinks?"
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See you do it like this, it's just like smoking a cigarette.
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"Francois Hollande raising its hand from the table he was crawling under to try and mute Manuel Barroso"
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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"I wonder if the other nipple will flop out before she notices?"
Will Rogers never met me.
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So, I was interviewed for a job, and during the interview they didn't seem to want to say too much about what they actually did or what the job would be like. Made me suspicious, but also curious, and since I didn't really have anything better to do..
I just witnessed the most enterprisey piece of I don't even know what to call it. It's the sort of thing that requires 5 years of training just to use it, let alone modify the code. They briefly expected me to just get started on it, fortunately they quickly abandoned that plan.
Instead, they want me to create something that converts some arcane XML format (CAMT053) to an undocumented XML format they use internally. Ok, sure, arcane to undocumented, perfectly doable, given enough time.
But not worth doing.
Frankly I'm getting ready to leave the profession entirely.
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Run, Run Quickly, Never Look Back. Good advice I was given and ignored 
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If you are a permie, that's bad...
On the other hand, for a Contractor, a job like that is just Gravy - you can get paid for doing what you want, when you want to, and blame everyone else for not providing the information you need to do the job. Best of all, if it doesn't work at the end because the internal format is sufficiently arcane, you can just say "why didn't you tell me that at some point?" and start all over again...on the same pay scale... 
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My job title is "intern", I don't even make minimum wage.
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Ah.
That's a problem then...
Blackmail. Install cameras and use the footage for your own nefarious ends?
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 I had that job title once, but I already had 2 years experience with a major company when I walked in (that title helped them avoid some laws regarding the number of employees they had, and I was just part time).
By the time that job was over, I actually had to partially lead the team I was supposed to be interning with...
My advice, take it for what it is, recognize that is not a place you want to work long term (it will kill your resume as you will not have relevant skills), but don't quit before you have another job lined up. It is real experience after all, and will separate you from the competition of other entry level folks.
And by all means, it is "intern", reminder, do not stay long term. Maybe 3 - 6 months? Keep your eyes open, good jobs are out there, just don't let a bad job drag you down.
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That's the important detail.
On one hand: If you have the flexibility to go someplace else I'd say run.
On the other hand: There's something to be said for getting mired in the worst, most disgusting loopyarchy of bureaucracy and spaghetti code with turf wars, petty fiefdoms and other miscellaneous psychosis as early in your career as possible. Because after you've seen that, you'll be able to handle everything.
On the 3rd hand (I'm not from around here): If what you're thinking about is leaving programming and IT and you have an alternative on your mind I say this: RUN SCREAMING. Don't make the mistake I made (which is not running screaming.)
But if you have some sort of nebulous "well coding is fun but there's not really anything else specific I'm balancing it against" then, well, go for it. Get up to your neck in corporate politics and nastiness.
My decades in the financial programming have me absolutely inoculated against any goofy power plays, "I keep my own source control on my workstation" and other assorted coding nightmares I will EVER encounter in my life.
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there are always new strains...
Do we weigh less at high tide?
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Ever heard the phrase "Feet, do your duty!" ?
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I always heard it as, "Feets don't fail me now!"
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Robert Ludwig wrote: I always heard it as, "Feets don't fail me now!"
Heh... either way, this is a situation that you need to run, not walk out of. No, not all programming jobs are this way but this is sure one that you don't wanna stick around for!
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OriginalGriff wrote: blame everyone else for not providing the information you need to do the job
AKA "The Nagy technique".
OriginalGriff wrote: on the triplesame pay scale
AKA "The Dalek technique"
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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I resemble that remark!
When I find myself in that position I shout early, I shout loud, I shout often. It is a great disturbance to the situpons when you want to do something and Retardon Doofus Numb-Brain III decides he won't give you all the relevant information.
speramus in juniperus
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