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Ok - it's done.
Do you have a BunMail address I can send it to?
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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mike@beammeoverabun.com 
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I haven't (purposely) eaten store bought bread in many years. I usually make my own bread and the ambiance and taste is unmatched by anything commercially made. For the cost of flour, yeast, a little oil, sugar, salt and water, it is also more economical.
But I don't need to heat the whole oven: the bread machine was one of the best investments I ever made. I found the bread machine at a resale store for $US 5.00, but it was missing a mixing paddle. A quick search on the internet and I had one in 2 days for an additional $US 9.00. If not, I would have made one myself from wood or heat resistant plastic. It's maybe the best $US 14.00 I ever spent.
It has more than returned the investment in satisfaction. Put in the ingredients, press the button, wait, then pull out a loaf of warm, freshly baked bread. Or stop the machine before the baking cycle, form it into rolls, and bake in a real oven without having to knead, etc. Lazy is good!
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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I have a bread maker, but I don't use it as much as I used to - I don't like the crust it makes that much as it doesn't toasty too well, I generally have to dig to paddle out and today I wanted nice soft buns to go
with some burgers I was making.
Instead my mixer has kneading attachments which do an ok job - a lot less work than hand kneading and nearly as good!
But the bread maker has one major plus: the timer. Set it to finish the bread for 08:00 on a Sunday and you have a reason to get out of bed! 
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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My bread machine seems to do OK on the crusts when I put it on the darker setting. (I like crunchy crusts.)
I usually make bread when I'm working from home and set it so I have to take a lunch break when the bread is ready. Otherwise, I often work straight through without taking a break, then wonder why I'm so hungry. As a matter of fact, I have a loaf preparing right now. Should be ready for a before dinner snack.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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The crusts are ok for a sandwich, but one of the beauties of making your own is being able to slice inch thick slabs of toast - and the crust on mine is like eating a handgrade when it's toasted... 
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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I wish I worked from home. Your home. 
/ravi
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From July - October this year I was working on taking a Brazilian open-source crowd funding (or "crowd sourcing") application and tailoring it for a specific niche for a group out in Denver CO. Among many of the changes, we also added a non-monetized way of "funding" a project, namely skills or resources, the idea being, if you have some skill (like website design, graphic design, got a tractor for plowing some earth? -- stuff like that) you could participate in the project as well. And being localized to Denver, the idea is to connect people directly to the projects in their neighborhoods.
We started with 3 seed projects, and one of them has exceeded its funding request! The interesting thing for me is, I've worked in this industry for 30+ years, and while I've done some really cool things, pretty much everything I've ever done has been "a job." So it was with this project as well, until this one project got its funding. It got me to sit back and I had this "wow, I've done something that allows other people to come together and do something for others" feeling. It's quite an interesting feeling, to work on something that facilitates other people's activities and dreams, rather than just working on an "end product."
The project that got funded is here if you want to take a look. I know this yet one more crowd sourcing site of several (kickstarter and indiegogo are probably the most well known) but it has been really amazing to put this together and see something fruitful actually come of it. So I thought I'd share. I can only imagine how neat it will be when there are (potentially) hundreds of these local projects going on in Denver.
Marc
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Good for you, feels good to give to a worthy cause!
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Am I wrong to declare VB .Net is the best programing language ever.
Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
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Quote: Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
Confuse you with silly syntax. Or give you an ego.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I have to use VB.Net for work.
Personal projects are C#.
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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So if you think that VB is the better language, does that mean that you need glasses in order to C#?
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience
Greg King
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I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.
Lily Tomlin, Actress
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It's not that hot on Functional Programming. It's native performance isn't as hot as something like Assembler or C/C++. It doesn't run on Apple or Android devices.
Shall I continue?
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: It's native performance isn't as hot as something like Assembler or C/C++.
True, but precisely as hot as C#, so for those who claim that VB is inferior to C#: 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience
Greg King
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I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.
Lily Tomlin, Actress
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Quote: VB can't do while other languages can do
Tell me how to perform unsafe code in VB.NET ?
Thanks,
Ranjan.D
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Ranjan.D wrote: unsafe code
Ranjan.D wrote: VB.NET
Isn't that a tautology?
(OK, cheap shot! - I've written enough VB in my time)
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write a C# dll with the unsafe methods or code parts and reference it?
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tmik wrote: Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
There's a few good (actually good) discussions I've seen out there that demonstrate some of VB's problems. I don't remember where they are though, as I stay away from VB because the pay rate for VB developers is lower, the majority of VB jobs that I've seen are coding, no architecture or design involved in the job, and quite frankly, most of the VB stuff seem to be filled by junior developers. Case in point, the management at a large communication satellite manufacturer that I was working at wanted to know why we didn't write the code in VB (we were using C#) and cited that VB programmers were cheaper and more readily available and that "everyone" could understand VB. While cheaper and more available is true, "everyone could understand VB" is a huge misconception that many managers seem to have - because the language is supposedly easier to understand, the code therefore is supposedly easier to write and maintain.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: VB programmers were cheaper and more readily available
I have found there are more skilled resources in c#, and the fact that 80% of all articles and examples seem to be in c# was enough for me to take the team from vb to c#.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Marc Clifton wrote: VB programmers were cheaper and more readily available
And larger about the chestal region. 
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tmik wrote: Is there any one who can pin point the things VB can't do while other languages can do.
It doesn't really work like that, you know? Here, let me show you.
Problem 1:
Am I wrong to declare MSIL is the best programing language ever.
Is there any one who can pin point the things MSIL can't do while other languages can do.
Ok, fine, there are a couple of things. But the problem with MSIL is not what it can't do, it's that it's MSIL. Obviously anything that can be done in VB.NET (or any .NET language) can be done in MSIL, because that's what it is compiled to. By the measure of "can do the most things", MSIL would be the best possible .NET language. So clearly that's a silly measure.
Problem 2:
Suppose language 1 can do A and B, and language 2 can do B and C. Which language is better?
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harold aptroot wrote: Suppose language 1 can do A and B, and language 2 can do B and C. Which language is better?
The one with the bigger breasts.
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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I think it comes down to personal preference I was a VB.NET developer now I move to C# and don't regret it.
But there has been mud sling about VB in general being a inferior language since it the early 90's that I know of. So I would put on your flame proof pants as you will more than likely get some stick.
previous versions of the language couldn't do half of the stuff that C# could do and vice versa for example
in Visual studio 2008
VB couldn't update values in a LinQ query
C# could do default values in method.
but since VS2010 they changed some of this and Microsoft decided to develop the languages at the same pace i.e. what went into VB also went into C# etc.
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence EAT BACON
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